izy
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Naples, FL
| reply to Leathal
Re: [RANT] vista can only be reintalled once?
said by Leathal  :I am sure there is going to be some tolerance to the rule, it just surprises me that people people have nothing better to do but blow it all to you know what... s$%t! hmmm, I don't know what's worse, people with an opinion or you whining about others opinions....  |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to tahoejeff
Apparently the licence is less restrictive for those who pay more to get the "Ultimate Edition". This allows more installs (? I think) and running in a VM (with some limits). »Vista licence much narrower than previous Windows licences
It's obnoxious. This is going to frustrate and annoy customers to such a degree that more of them than ever before start looking at alternatives. |
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs:
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| reply to Anon
said by Leathal :Stop you whining then! If you don't want to run it, don't but sooner or later you will have no choice as there aren't enough applications on Linux or any other platform other than Macintosh that allow you to do everything that Windows does. Leathal Really!?!? Visit sourceforge much? So far I have found a few replacements for some core things I use. Games I can let Windows 2000 handle.
1.) RADMIN=UltraVNC
2.) MSoffice=Open office
3.) QUicken and a few others=Crossover (»desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2282537026.html)
4.) Antivirus=clamwin
5.) drivers for equipment and such=various vendor sites, such as Dlink for the wireless network card and such.
So far just on a basic test drive... I am impressed, and thinking of moving within a year or so.
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mack1951
Universal Soldier
join:2000-04-18
Bayonne, NJ
| reply to tahoejeff
I recently bought a MacBook Pro to run final cut video editing software and I find myself using my windows machines less and less. I think my next desktop will be a Mac as well and then no need to worry about Vista. Not the solution for everyone but it will work for me. 
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dave
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
·Verizon Online DSL
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| reply to Anon
said by Leathal :I don't see why you'd want to upgrade to anything faster once you had your ultimate machine running Vista? Uh, because as far as I'm aware, hardware is still being improved, and that trend will probably continue for the next year at least?
I've long since ceased to be a top-of-the-line buyer; I prefer the middle sweet spot of cheap enough/fast enough. But there are people who want fast fast fast. And if they want the fastest that's available today, they'll probably want the fastest that's available tomorrow, as well.
And in any case, telling people they shouldn't upgrade hardware is completely beside the point:
Person 1: "Damn, Microsoft won't let me move a licence from one machine to another".
Person 2: "Well, you shouldn't want to upgrade your hardware anyway".
I for one think this is a pretty low blow from Microsoft, if it turns out to be true. |
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Bangy
join:2000-12-20
Lincoln, RI
| reply to Anon
Leathal, you are a marketers wet dream. Keep eating the crap that hardware/software manufacturers shove down your throat. Keep accpeting DRM management that kills performance and treats honest customers lke criminals.
Anyhow, The point is NO ONE should have to bend to MS's ridiculous rules for an OS that will likely cost over $200. To build one machine and have to be content with it for the duration of the OS life is moronic. For instance I'm a gaming enthusiast and I upgraded 6 times during XP's run. It sheep like yourself that keep purveyors of garbage computers like Dell and HP in business. If you're content with having your options narrowed down to what a small group of suits wants you to have then fine, but don't call people who don't whiners. It simply shows the degree of greed inherent in that company, a company that controls 90% of the worlds operating systems. If they released a base free version and sold extended versions and extended support gurantees they'd still make a fortune and not have to implement disgusting practices like DRM. |
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salzan
Experienced Optimist
Premium
join:2004-01-08
WA State | reply to tahoejeff
It's all moving toward a "Pay As You Go" operation.
Might as well get used to it if you want to upgrade your OS, it's not going away.
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iEvolution
join:2006-06-24
Ogden, UT | reply to tahoejeff
heh wouldn't surprise me if there is a yearly fee they try to impose in the future for using Windows...pretty sad really. |
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lgkahn
Premium
join:2005-02-15
Londonderry, NH | reply to tahoejeff
not even just hardware failure or upgrades very often you get your registry screwed up or a virus or spyware and have to to d reinstall or restore from tape backup and re-register. |
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Mordhem
Love it, Hate it.
join:2003-07-10
Baltimore, MD
·Comcast
| reply to tahoejeff
If they did that they would end up losing allot of support, Some of the moves Microsoft has made in the not so distant past makes me want to find a new OS. Also thou it could be because its time for something new I was even looking at some of the new Linux flavors out there. If there was a OS right now with the power windows in the gaming area I would switch.
I still like Microsoft you could call me a fan of there stuff, but they need to stop screwing stuff up with this Validates crap. At first I could not get my OS to Validates but in the end it did but thing Is I should not need to go threw crap like that to use a product I have already paid for.
Mord. |
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salzan
Experienced Optimist
Premium
join:2004-01-08
WA State
| said by Mordhem :If there was a OS right now with the power windows in the gaming area I would switch. If you consider the costs of keeping a computer up to current gaming levels, the consoles are looking better and better.
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Bangy
join:2000-12-20
Lincoln, RI
| reply to tahoejeff
A lot of people switching to Macs. After using my friends I can see why. They are smooth, intuitive, fun to use and have very few of the downsides that Windows based systems do. Granted the siftware is more limited but its not I like I'm doing rocket science on mine. Just simple accounting web browsing (gaming is getting better as well) |
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gsm8
join:2004-09-29
Renton, WA | reply to tahoejeff
I just love reading these rumors this is by far the best one yet. My gf is on the vista team I might have to show her this one so she can have a good laugh |
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Shootist
Premium
join:2003-02-10
Decatur, GA
| reply to CylonRed
It wasn't directed AT you. It was just a response to the whole thread.
said by CylonRed :said by Shootist :Well the whole point to the GA system was to stop piracy and increase there bottom line, ER stop them from losing money because of piracy. You would think once that came about the cost of software would come down. Yeah right. Now that MS has perfected this system they are raising the cost to everyone and to top it off they have so many different version which one is for who. I know that most would be OK with the home version. But if it's anything like XP home, with no ability to change security settings, then I would want the pro version. But which version is the pro version and what outrageous price do they want for it. Lets face it, it is a operating system. I see no new features in Vista. It doesn't have a better file system, it's the same as XP. What you can't do without the eye candy?? If I'm actually using my PC for what it was intended for I never look at the desktop except at bootup and when shutting down. Not at all sure why this was directed toward me...
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Shootist
Premium
join:2003-02-10
Decatur, GA
| reply to Bangy
If Apple would release OSX for all Intel PC's I would take a serious look at it and probably switch to it once XP couldn't run the software I had. In fact I would probably buy it and dual boot with XP and buy newer software for the MAC OS as needed and wave MS Windows Bye Bye.
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Rogue Wolf
Is Kind Of A Big Deal In Yemen
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to iEvolution
said by iEvolution :heh wouldn't surprise me if there is a yearly fee they try to impose in the future for using Windows...pretty sad really. Yearly? I'd expect something more along the lines of "per boot".
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| reply to Bangy
said by Bangy :A lot of people switching to Macs. After using my friends I can see why. They are smooth, intuitive, fun to use and have very few of the downsides that Windows based systems do. Granted the siftware is more limited but its not I like I'm doing rocket science on mine. Just simple accounting web browsing (gaming is getting better as well) I agree! I tested Vista and it was merely eye candy and it made my machine run slower so I dumped it. My next purchase will be a MAC and that's not a rant but merely me making an informed decision.
I have identical machines running windows 2000 and XP and there are times I completely forget which OS in on the machine, that's how similar they are.
Vista has no appreciable value proposition for my needs and I will not be using it.
And I build my own machines in addition to buying name brands. |
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dave
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Shootist
said by Shootist :If Apple would release OSX for all Intel PC's I would take a serious look at it and probably switch to it once XP couldn't run the software I had. My guess is 'unlikely' - Apple still seems to think of itself as a hardware company. |
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tahoejeff
join:2001-07-01
Wisconsin Dells, WI
clubs:
| reply to NY Tel
the only possible argument i would have to this:
if this nasty 'rumor' proves to be true, i will be sticking with xp pro on my machine and 2k pro on my wife's.
when will MS stop patching/updating these older operating systems? i know the date is posted somewhere, i'm being lazy. my point it that at some point, i WILL have to move on to their current offering.
Mac has always interested me, but i wouldn't move that way until i can use the o/s with the hardware of my choosing (homebuilt). Mac hardware is way too expensive when compared with equal Win hardware.
i have also dual booted linux in the past, and will likely do it again, but i still find myself booting to windows most days because of things i can't do under linux. once linux has enough users to catch the interest of the hardware people (driver software), i won't think twice about the switch.
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
| reply to Shootist
said by Shootist :It wasn't directed AT you. It was just a response to the whole thread. said by CylonRed :said by Shootist :Well the whole point to the GA system was to stop piracy and increase there bottom line, ER stop them from losing money because of piracy. You would think once that came about the cost of software would come down. Yeah right. Now that MS has perfected this system they are raising the cost to everyone and to top it off they have so many different version which one is for who. I know that most would be OK with the home version. But if it's anything like XP home, with no ability to change security settings, then I would want the pro version. But which version is the pro version and what outrageous price do they want for it. Lets face it, it is a operating system. I see no new features in Vista. It doesn't have a better file system, it's the same as XP. What you can't do without the eye candy?? If I'm actually using my PC for what it was intended for I never look at the desktop except at bootup and when shutting down. Not at all sure why this was directed toward me... Ok - usually when a post is quoted by someone in their post - it usually means the specific post is being replied to and not the entire thread...
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