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TKJunkMail
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 148 million broadband users in US

The United States has the largest total number of broadband subscribers in the OECD at 57 million.
And I read subscribers as households subscribed, not broadband users in that stat from the OECD.

And when you take into account that their are 2.59 persons per household(2000 US census) in the US, that means there are 148 million people with access to broadband in the US. With a total population of 296 million(2005 census estimate) in the US, that means 50% of the US population has broadband access. And that number isn't based on the often derided FCC definition of broadband by zipcode.
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Tkjunkmail, you make a very good point as if you look at the raw statistics, it says 16.8% of the USA "population" is connected but in fact, homes are connected, not necessarily people.

I looked through the report and never did see anywhere where it says the percent of homes connected by country. Some countries in the list statistically have larger family sizes and others smaller family sizes so it would appear to me that homes should be the common denominator, not people.


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And that number isn't based on the often derided FCC definition of broadband by zipcode.
But is it using the FCC definition of "broadband" which they say is 200 kbps or higher? Let's compare apples with apples. How many houses have ACCESS( because not everyone wants the internet )to at least 1.5 Mbps broadband( which would by my minimum speed for "broadband" ). I would say that number in the US is far smaller than 50%


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And that number isn't based on the often derided FCC definition of broadband by zipcode.
But is it using the FCC definition of "broadband" which they say is 200 kbps or higher? Let's compare apples with apples. How many houses have ACCESS( because not everyone wants the internet )to at least 1.5 Mbps broadband( which would by my minimum speed for "broadband" ). I would say that number in the US is far smaller than 50%
The OECD definition of broadband is 256k or higher in at least 1 direction. I assume the stats about US broadband and other countries in this released report meet those requirements.

»www.oecd.org/dataoecd/48/33/2475737.pdf

And an easier to read confirmation of info in the above OECD PDF document is here:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_access
The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) has defined broadband as 256 kbit/s in at least one direction and this bit rate is the most common baseline that is marketed as "broadband" around the world.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And an easier to read confirmation of info in the above OECD PDF document is here:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_access
The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) has defined broadband as 256 kbit/s in at least one direction and this bit rate is the most common baseline that is marketed as "broadband" around the world.
Well that's all fine if they are using the same number, but 256 kbps is still a joke to consider that broadband. More like dial-up delux.


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Well that's all fine if they are using the same number, but 256 kbps is still a joke to consider that broadband. More like dial-up delux.
I wouldn't call 256k download real broadband either. But that is what the OECD is using to create the report listed in the news item.
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The OECD and ITU numbers are all connections. These include business lines, as well as any cellular line that exceeded 256K.

The U.S. household penetration is somewhere between 30% and 38%, depending on whose dataset you look at (survey methods).

But the best way to do this is use the FCC's data (which is where the OECD gets their info from). If you assume the 43 million residential lines represent one per houshold (which b/c of cellular, slightly overstates that), and you use the latest census estimate of 115 million U.S. households, then you have a U.S. household penetration level of about 37%. Nowhere near the 50% you calculated.
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