dave
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Re: Microsoft Opening Up Vista Kernel To Security Vendors
said by Steve  :have you ever priced the Acrobat product that does this? Please try and keep up.
"Professional" operating system = $299 : exorbitant price, abuse of monopoly power.
"Professional" document production software = $199 : appropriate price for product of independent software vendor.
(As usual when discussing price, I have to make this clear: Of course I prefer lower prices. But what I'm interested in here is the perception that some prices are too high in principle.) |
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2 edits | said by dave :Please try and keep up. I think it's you who needs to keep up:
Windows XP Home = $209
Windows XP Professional = $309
Adobe Acrobat Standard = $285
Adobe Acrobat Professional = $425
(all prices retail from one representative vendor)
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dave
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| Hmm, I got my price for Acrobat Pro from a google-selected web retailer. They said it was the retail package. Looks a little suspicious that they're selling it for less than half what you quoted.
(Though of course your figures make my point even better: multifunction OS = price gouging, single application = fair price).
The XP Pro price is MS's list price. |
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said by dave :"Professional" operating system = $299 : exorbitant price, abuse of monopoly power. "Professional" document production software = $199 : appropriate price for product of independent software vendor. How the heck is $300 exorbitant for an OS whereas $200 is appropriate for an application that you use a faction of the time that you're using the OS? Call me back when it's $20.
...and independant! That's like calling Sony Music an indie record label. Pfft.
oh... independant of M$. Got it. Nothing trumps blind hate for 'ol evil M$.
said by Steve :Perhaps you have no need to create a PDF, but many many others do, and most of those resent having to spend hundreds of dollars for Adobe's software. True, there are third party programs that do PDF creation, but none of them are as good as Acrobat. True that. In fact, there's a fourth party market for apps that convert PDF to DOC. But guess what? Adobe's going to force (sarcasim) their PDF to DOC converter in version 8 (it's one of the new features). So, so far as MS being "unfair" to PDF by being the bigger fish and offering a competitive product, Adobe is doing the same thing to companies smaller than they. Big bank takes little bank.
Wow, talk about OT. Good job Mele. 
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dave
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| said by INHCNN :How the heck is $300 exorbitant for an OS whereas $200 is appropriate for an application that you use a faction of the time that you're using the OS? Uh, I think your sarcasm sensors need immediate adjustment.
I assumed it would be obvious that I was ridiculing a viewpoint that is prevalent in this forum. |
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