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| Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. There needs to be jail time with this. Apple planted a virus on it's devices to take out a competitors OS. They advertise how OSX is virus free while windows is full of them, so I would consider it criminal to purposely propagate a windows virus to backup your false advertising claims. This could only be worse if it was an anti-virus company that did this. | |
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2 edits | Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail. Some one at Apple needs to lose their job. how in the hell can they blame Microsoft for something they are selling and making.Microsoft has nothing to do with the production of the iPod. When i first read about this a few days ago i knew Apple wouldn't take the blame for their own mistake and would try to pass it off onto Microsoft. | |
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| Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail. Apple needs to punish it's suppliers. Apple did NOT put the virus on the iPod themselvs so no one at Apple should be punished per se, but the manufacturer who is using an infected computer to test brand new iPods on needs to be replaced with a smarter one.
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| Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail. It's called Quality Control.
Apparently Apple needs to have it explained to them... if this had happened with MS or IBM, people would be calling for heads. But somehow because it's Apple people want to say it's ok.
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| Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail. said by Primis1  : Apple deserves to burn for it... Yeah burn for something that affected less than 1% of the iPods available in the last month or so. Now while I understand that even one is one too many, they've acknowledged the problem, rectified the problem and point users to free steps that they can take in the rare event that they're affected by the problem. Most anything mass produced is going to have the occasional problem child that gets by even with superlative quality control measures in place.
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| Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail. I can't and won't cry for Apple when the Apple zealots have taken this same attitude towards MS for eons.
If this were MS and not Apple, they'd be the first calling for blood. Just because it's Apple it does NOT just make it ok.
By the way, I find it funny that an infected PC is being blamed during replication. Apparently a Mac isn't good enough to do such a simple process?
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| Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail. How is an infected Mac going to cause this? That makes no sense. This is an isolated event in which the manufacturer fucked up some iPods before Apple even had taken delivery of them.
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| If Apple is to be crisped, then MS needs to be atomized. And a good smack at the vendor who infected these ipods.
This has happened before (MacAddict sent out CDROMs that had a trojan on them) and it usually is unknown to the manufacturer. Some thrid party vendor/supplier is responsible.
Apple atleast is open enough to say "Whoa, folks! If connecting this to a PC, make sure it has current AV software. Some of our products were infected by supplier during setup/testing...and yes, via Windows!"
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| said by Primis1 :It's called Quality Control. Apparently Apple needs to have it explained to them... if this had happened with MS or IBM, people would be calling for heads. But somehow because it's Apple people want to say it's ok. It's not. Apple deserves to burn for it... I agree. Apple was obviously testing some iPods before shipping by using Windows PC's that were infected with a virus. That they didn't make sure those PC's were virus free is totally their own fault. Trying to blame Microsoft is just more of the same denial process that Apple has exhibited about their own systems being invulnerable to viruses.
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Savannah, GA | Re: Someone at Apple needs to go to jail. Again: Apple was not testing the iPods -- the testing was done at the manufacturing site by an entity separate and un-related to Apple.
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Oh my GOD that sounds retarded. Seriously do you think before you post? Apple is trying to take out Microsoft's OS through iPod viruses... that sounds like a page right out of MS's playbook to me, not Apple's.
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Actually if you think about it the iPod was plugged into a Windows OS based machine during QC. Therefore your post is entirely wrong.
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| Because infecting computers with viruses is NOT going to take Windows down... Windows does a good enough job on their own of getting infected without Apple's help.
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1 edit | Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. I agree this is not really destroying the windows OS if you have a anti virus (Big duh for windows users) this wont do anything. Go to jail? No just pay any dammages and that will be enough for me.
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Savannah, GA | Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Could you please clarify what you mean beginning with Got o join?
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| Should McDonalds execs go to jail since a very similar thing happened to some of the MP3 players they were selling or giving away as part of some meal. Probably happened at the same manufacture plant... »www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21665···maleware
Apple said less than 1% of the 5.5G iPods were affected, McDonalds recalled over 10,000 MP3 players in Japan...
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1 edit | Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. McDonald's doesn't sell mp3 players and advertise about how insecure windows is. Apple does. Had McDonald's mp3 players had a virus designed to take down Burger King, then I would expect jail time. Affecting a customer negatively is much different than smearing a competitor. | |
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Whatever. You really need to pull your head out of your ass and see that this wasn't Apple trying to take down MS's crappy OS. Both cases (McDonalds and Apple) just demonstrate that these manufacturers in China don't care one iota about quality they just want to make money. I love how you can ignore one company's mess up just to pick on another company..
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1 edit | Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. You don't get it.
Causing problems for your own customers is much different then causing problems for someone else's customers for you own benefit. They claim windows is insecure, but it's only insecure when apple hides a virus on it's player to circumvent windows security.
And Apple is a hardware manufacturer, even if they contract construction out to a foreign company, they have full liability over construction as if they made it themselves. McDonalds, makes food, a promotional item with a flaw hardly makes them a criminal organization. Hell, maybe the same company made both devices and apple is responsible for both instances. I would bet that is the case.
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1 edit | Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Read my posts - I never blasted McDonalds. These things just happen. Besides there were only 25 reported iPods affected - that's nothing. Apple probably sells 25 iPods/hr. Apple was responsible by acknoledging that the problem indeed exists and reminding Windows users that the best way to prevent against getting the virus is to have up-to-date AV software. Apple I am SURE made several pissed off calls to said manufacturer to redouble their QC.
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. That's nice apple releases a virus and it's the users fault for not having purchased an anti-virus program. Apple should be offering free anti-virus to anyone who got an ipod that could have been compromised. Anything less is crap. And it is a criminal act to purposely attack a competitor with a computer virus. Had microsoft released a linux virus on 25 zunes, they would have been sued for billions and someone would definitely be going to jail. | |
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2 edits | Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Do you honestly thing Apple wrote that virus? Noo... It wasn't "Discovered" on new iPods it was accidentally put there by some dumb Chinese manufacturer and not by any employee directly employed by Apple - probably the exact same way those McDonalds MP3 players (400x more of which were infected, yet you don't flame them... maybe McD's should drop NAV into each Happy Meal from now on?). That virus had been in the wild before it was ever on an iPod. If Windows were more secure then the virus that was on the 3rd party manufacturer's computer would never have been able to make it onto the iPod that was plugged into it. | |
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. You still don't get it. McDonald's is not an mp3 manufacturer, apple is. If McDonald's get someone to make an mp3 player from them, it's the manufacturers fault if there are problems. With apple, they can contract out their own manufacturing, but they are still the manufacturer and are 100% responsible for their product.
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Oh so just because McDonalds isn't primarily an MP3 maker they shouldn't at all be liable for their product? Right, that makes SO much sense. Let me enlighten you as to something - Apple, Dell, HP, Gateway, etc. all sell a lot of products that are made by a very few 3rd party manufacturers. MOST products that you buy aren't actually made by the company that sells them. I don't see what Apple could have done above and beyond what they've already done in regards to this issue. They put a warning up on their website to warn all 25 people who were affected that they should make sure their anti-virus is up to date before they plug in their iPods or they can plug the iPod into a Mac first and have the Mac restore the iPod and then it won't be contaminated with the virus anymore.
Answer this question though: If Windows weren't such a shitty OS that is so easily infected with viruses why else would this be a problem?
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Apple advertises that windows is insecure, then releases a virus to help prove their case. It's got to be illegal. That would be like advertising a competitor is poisoning their own food, then getting caught breaking in at night poisoning the special sauce.
And yes their is a huge difference between McDonald's and Apple. If a company caterer's a dinner with McDonald's food and everyone gets sick. It's not the company's fault, but the company can cal 911 and get people help, rather than just siting back and waiting for McDonald's to do anything about it.
If apple manufacturer's and sells a product that spreads a virus, it is their fault. Just because they get a cheap manufacturer to make their product, it's still their product and manufacturing issues are still their responsibility. | |
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Oh my GOD you're dense. Re-read all my previous posts I've answered every issue you've raised a dozen times before. For the last time: APPLE DID NOT WRITE OR RELEASE THAT VIRUS IT WAS ALREADY RELEASED AND HAD BEEN DETECTED AND INFECTED OTHER MACHINES BEFORE THIS iPOD INCIDENT.
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Schererville, IN | Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. I know what you are saying, but what I am saying has nothing to do with creating the virus, just spreading it. I guess your stance is based on what your definition of is is. | |
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. And I fail to see your point because less than 25 iPods were infected by the 3rd party manufacturer while 10,000 or more McDonalds MP3 players were infected and yet the iPod issue is a bigger one?
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Schererville, IN | Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Yes. Apple attacked a competitor, McDonald's supplier did not. | |
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| Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail. Apple made a joke about how fragile Windows is. Irregardless of that joke McDonald's accident caused more damage than Apple's. The reason that the iPod incident is getting more attention than McDonalds is that the iPod has great name recognition and people are aware of it's presence.
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