jwsmiths4
Part Man, Part Mac
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join:2003-10-25
Savannah, GA | reply to insomniac84
Re: Someon at Apple needs to go to jail.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | reply to jwsmiths4
If you want to read the dumbest things ever read, search for "jwsmiths". |
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jwsmiths4
Part Man, Part Mac
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Savannah, GA | reply to insomniac84
I'm going to site mark this as the dumbest thing I've ever read. Period.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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Well I guess your the expert on all computer security, right? Microsoft should hire you. Unfortunately, Microsoft has made windows secure, and they are constantly making it more secure. The amount of error fixing that windows has gone through is matched by no other OS. And if you truly believe a Mac OS with very few people trying to exploit is more secure than windows, you need a head exam.
Plus everything you say to support Apple is moot when they publicly tried to blame microsoft for their own newb mistakes. |
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jwsmiths4
Part Man, Part Mac
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Savannah, GA
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The only way I figure is that Windows is MORE susceptible to "EBKAC" than Mac OS X due to it's flawed security model. It doesn't require admin passwords to make system-wide changes, users are often setup as admin accounts because the limited accounts are not powerful enough to do many things (including run MS's own games, etc.). At any rate I think the only thing you've managed to convey is your lack of understanding of computer security and your lack of understanding about what constitutes an appropriate response to an incident of this magnitude (or lack thereof).
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | reply to jwsmiths4
Errors Between Keyboard and Chair. You figure it out. |
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jwsmiths4
Part Man, Part Mac
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Savannah, GA
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Explain how Apple is MORE vulnerable than Windows. What is EBKAC? Is that an acronym for "Poorly implemented security model?" Macs are MUCH more secure OUT OF THE BOX and it is much harder to bring a Mac to the same lack of security that Windows give you out of the box.
Again: Did you even look at Apple's website?? They have links to anti-virus software (INCLUDING A FREE ONE) to help people. Maybe you're too THICK and ANTI-APPLE to see that though?
Think of this like a car manufacturer's recall: A defect affects 25 cars: those cars are fixed on an as-needed basis and no one else suffers. Another defect affects 10,000 cars: the manufacturer issues a re-call and everyone is told to bring their cars in for a repair.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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Windows is only "crappy" and suffers from problems due to EBKAC.
MAC is equally susceptible to the same problems. (If not more)
But it is nice that if something only effects 25 people, fixing the problem can be easily ignored, but nationally exploited for advertising. |
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jwsmiths4
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Talking to you makes people dumber. Have you even looked at Apple's web page setup about the virus that infected TWENTY FIVE iPods... considering this affected TWENTY FIVE iPods that was a perfectly acceptable reaction. You still haven't given any reason why Windows being such a shitty OS isn't at all to blame here.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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No the reason why apple is a bigger issue that mcdonald's is because the context of the two incidents are entirely different. Apple screwed up and blamed someone else for it. McDonald's could have just referred people to the manufacturer, they didn't. McDonald's stepped up and took care of the problem themselves. It would be like target setting up a hotline for apple ipods. McDonalds did more than they had to. Apple did much less than they should have done and didn't even admit fault of any kind. Apple hates consumers, McDonald's likes them. |
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jwsmiths4
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Apple made a joke about how fragile Windows is. Irregardless of that joke McDonald's accident caused more damage than Apple's. The reason that the iPod incident is getting more attention than McDonalds is that the iPod has great name recognition and people are aware of it's presence.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | reply to jwsmiths4
Yes. Apple attacked a competitor, McDonald's supplier did not. |
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jwsmiths4
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And I fail to see your point because less than 25 iPods were infected by the 3rd party manufacturer while 10,000 or more McDonalds MP3 players were infected and yet the iPod issue is a bigger one?
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | reply to jwsmiths4
I know what you are saying, but what I am saying has nothing to do with creating the virus, just spreading it. I guess your stance is based on what your definition of is is. |
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jwsmiths4
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Oh my GOD you're dense. Re-read all my previous posts I've answered every issue you've raised a dozen times before. For the last time: APPLE DID NOT WRITE OR RELEASE THAT VIRUS IT WAS ALREADY RELEASED AND HAD BEEN DETECTED AND INFECTED OTHER MACHINES BEFORE THIS iPOD INCIDENT.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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Apple advertises that windows is insecure, then releases a virus to help prove their case. It's got to be illegal. That would be like advertising a competitor is poisoning their own food, then getting caught breaking in at night poisoning the special sauce.
And yes their is a huge difference between McDonald's and Apple. If a company caterer's a dinner with McDonald's food and everyone gets sick. It's not the company's fault, but the company can cal 911 and get people help, rather than just siting back and waiting for McDonald's to do anything about it.
If apple manufacturer's and sells a product that spreads a virus, it is their fault. Just because they get a cheap manufacturer to make their product, it's still their product and manufacturing issues are still their responsibility. |
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MysticGogeta
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Who cares get over it jesus christ |
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jwsmiths4
Part Man, Part Mac
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Oh so just because McDonalds isn't primarily an MP3 maker they shouldn't at all be liable for their product? Right, that makes SO much sense. Let me enlighten you as to something - Apple, Dell, HP, Gateway, etc. all sell a lot of products that are made by a very few 3rd party manufacturers. MOST products that you buy aren't actually made by the company that sells them. I don't see what Apple could have done above and beyond what they've already done in regards to this issue. They put a warning up on their website to warn all 25 people who were affected that they should make sure their anti-virus is up to date before they plug in their iPods or they can plug the iPod into a Mac first and have the Mac restore the iPod and then it won't be contaminated with the virus anymore.
Answer this question though: If Windows weren't such a shitty OS that is so easily infected with viruses why else would this be a problem?
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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You still don't get it. McDonald's is not an mp3 manufacturer, apple is. If McDonald's get someone to make an mp3 player from them, it's the manufacturers fault if there are problems. With apple, they can contract out their own manufacturing, but they are still the manufacturer and are 100% responsible for their product.
And telling a consumer it's their fault your product caused them harm is pure garbage. |
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jwsmiths4
Part Man, Part Mac
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join:2003-10-25
Savannah, GA
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Do you honestly thing Apple wrote that virus? Noo... It wasn't "Discovered" on new iPods it was accidentally put there by some dumb Chinese manufacturer and not by any employee directly employed by Apple - probably the exact same way those McDonalds MP3 players (400x more of which were infected, yet you don't flame them... maybe McD's should drop NAV into each Happy Meal from now on?). That virus had been in the wild before it was ever on an iPod. If Windows were more secure then the virus that was on the 3rd party manufacturer's computer would never have been able to make it onto the iPod that was plugged into it. |
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