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richk_1957
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This has to be said

But I'm getting tired of saying it. Maybe someone will listen. Over a year ago, there was an issue that came up about a law needed [I forget the topic] to stop something because it helped pedophiles and terrorists. I thought about it came to the conclusion that that was BS. The only way pedophiles and terrorists would be involved would only be incidentally. Some LEA didn't like going to judges so they wanted this law passed . The new buzzwords are pedophile/child molester/sexual predator and terrorist/terrorism and these words are used whenever somebody, somewhere wants a law passed that may be controversial, they use these words to distract attention from the real matter.

I was immediately flamed by people that all but said I was a pedophile or terrorist, with links to abused children & 9/11 and the London bombing sites, saying I wanted that to happen again. NO - I don't want that to happen again & these issues have to be addressed but they way they're going about it, by taking away our rights now isn't the way to do it. What I'm getting at is that when people hear the words pedophile/child molester/sexual predator or terrorist/terrorism their gut reaction is to say 'do whatever you have to to stop it' without thinking 'whatever you have to' entails.

said by Tkjunkmail :
Data won't be accessible w/o warrants
... and the requirement that ISPs archive business records for a reasonable time is a long established precedent in the US and everywhere else in the world, hence the EU 2 yr requirement. It will come, so quit whining - and don't do anything illegal over the internet. Better yet don't do anything illegal and you won't have anything to worry about.

HAH!
And if you think that they'll need a warrant to access this data I bet you believe in the tooth fairy, also. A couple years before 9/11 this may have been true, you needed a judges order to get a search warrant or wiretap but not now. Because of the Patriot Act & the Department of Homeland Security, all you need is a 'reasonable suspicion of terrorist activity' and they have almost free reign to whatever they deem necessary. Awe all want to stamp out terrorism, don't we?
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