raye
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Re: He could be right
Arnold is already independently wealthy. He did not take this job to enrich himself as most other politicians do. That does not mean he is not vulnerable to listening to the wrong people when it comes to broadband or anything else. In this case however I think he is proceeding correctly. |
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ieolus
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You do realize that most politicians are also idependently wealthy right? Doesn't stop any of them from being bought, so I doubt Arnold is any different. In fact, him being a Republican, the benefit of the doubt must be waived.
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broadbander
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said by raye  :Arnold is already independently wealthy. He did not take this job to enrich himself as most other politicians do. That does not mean he is not vulnerable to listening to the wrong people when it comes to broadband or anything else. In this case however I think he is proceeding correctly. Most politicians are already wealthy. I don't see your point. Politicians are swayed by money, not straight-up "bought" by it. When politicians do take money, it is usually related in some way to an increase in power or influence (more valuable than dollars). |
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operagost
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said by ieolus : In fact, him being a Republican, the benefit of the doubt must be waived. Too bad this wasn't the first line of your post. I could have simply not bothered to read the rest. |
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ieolus
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SD6
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There is wealthy and then there is WEALTHY. Schwarzenegger is WEALTHY and famous outside of politics.
It's nice to have someone who doesn't need the job or owe his job to special interests. I think it gives him more discretion to not rely upon special interests the way that many career politicians have to. It's up to him to serve the people of California well. |
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john262
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Elko, NV | reply to ieolus
Come on, give me a break. I wish that BBR could be non political and just stick to tech issues. This constant left wing drum beat in this forum is getting tiresome. |
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broadbander
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said by SD6 :There is wealthy and then there is WEALTHY. Schwarzenegger is WEALTHY and famous outside of politics. It's nice to have someone who doesn't need the job or owe his job to special interests. I think it gives him more discretion to not rely upon special interests the way that many career politicians have to. It's up to him to serve the people of California well. Politicians serve "special interests" because, often times, it is those "special interests" who have made a state wealthy and populous. Certainly, as the "special interests" become less special, they lose their political power. You're point still doesn't hit home. If the truly wealthy control this country and as follows, its politicians, it is because the truly wealthy employ this country. |
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ieolus
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You have got to be joking. Constant left wing drum beat on BBR? LOL
Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view, the act of deploying broadband to the masses is a political issue.
Read the OP again...
quote:
After telcos spent nearly $20 million in three months on lobbying state lawmakers, the state passed a statewide video franchise system the telcos believe will expedite next-gen network deployment.
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elsupremo
join:2000-09-03
Newport Beach, CA
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said by operagost :said by ieolus : In fact, him being a Republican, the benefit of the doubt must be waived. Too bad this wasn't the first line of your post. I could have simply not bothered to read the rest. +1 |
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Netbum
join:2002-04-08
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said by SD6 :There is wealthy and then there is WEALTHY. Schwarzenegger is WEALTHY and famous outside of politics. It's nice to have someone who doesn't need the job or owe his job to special interests. I think it gives him more discretion to not rely upon special interests the way that many career politicians have to. It's up to him to serve the people of California well. You must not follow Kalifornia politics very closely.
He has raised more special interest money than Grey Davis ever did.
By far!
Anyone can be bought. 
But I hope something good comes from this. |
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veloslave
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said by ieolus :You have got to be joking. Constant left wing drum beat on BBR? LOL Where have you been surfing???
DSLR ***NOT*** leaning left???
YOU have got to be kidding. Most of the Internet leans (far) left and DSLR's is no exception.
I would have to agree that the Guvernator is not out to score like most politicians... and he is WAY MORE wealthy than you average pol to begin with. He has done a good job here in leftyland... not perfect but I will certainly give him my vote again.
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SD6
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I don't follow CA politics closely. But I didn't say he didn't raise a lot of special interest money; I said he didn't owe his job to special interests. He went into office owing a heck of a lot less favors than most politicians - it's up to him whether he allows himself to be bought. |
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NormanS
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I waive the benefit of the doubt for rich Democrats, too.
Wealth is wealth, Democrat, or Republican.
Bill Clinton always reminded me of the typical TV preacher, and I would trust him about as much.
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KrK
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said by john262 :Come on, give me a break. I wish that BBR could be non political and just stick to tech issues. This constant left wing drum beat in this forum is getting tiresome. Joseph Goebbels said "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." It seems common practice these days for right to constantly attack everything as "left-wing" in order to cover up the fact that really there's mostly far right spin on everything. Luckily most postings on BBR news seem pretty fair and balanced; but the replies, oh man. They jam the rudder at hard-to-starboard and increase speed to flank.
No wonder it just goes around in circles.
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said by veloslave :YOU have got to be kidding. Most of the Internet leans (far) left and DSLR's is no exception. I would have to agree that the Guvernator is not out to score like most politicians... and he is WAY MORE wealthy than you average pol to begin with. He has done a good job here in leftyland... not perfect but I will certainly give him my vote again. Amazing. Perhaps you're confusing some independent and libertarian and Democratic blogs and websites as "Most of the Internet" while leaving out all the corporate media and news sites (at least in the USA) which tend to just repeat right PR statements or swing even further. No matter, at least these "left leaner's" get a chance to express their opinions on the Internet unlike the corporate controlled "content" feed to the masses...
I find these comments interesting that Arnold obviously isn't out to score any political points.... I guess that's because he has an "(R)" behind his name. I note that when a certain other person named "Hillary Clinton" with the "(D)" after her name also proposes broadband inititaves that of course that it's all just politically grandstanding and showboating.... at least according to the people who only vote by looking to see who has the "(R)" anyway.
Yeah. Sure. Uh huh.
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NormanS
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| Hillary Clinton is a hard core Liberal. Nobody on the right is going to like anything that she proposes, even when it is a "Good Thing".
The media of this country, and the entertainment industry as well, has a very definite leftward slant. If you can't see it, you are probably too close to it.
Most times the moderators of the technical BBR forums try to keep politics out of the discussions. That is harder to do when discussing policies instead of technical problems.
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broadbander
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Brooklyn, NY
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said by KrK :said by john262 :Come on, give me a break. I wish that BBR could be non political and just stick to tech issues. This constant left wing drum beat in this forum is getting tiresome. Joseph Goebbels said "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." It seems common practice these days for right to constantly attack everything as "left-wing" in order to cover up the fact that really there's mostly far right spin on everything. Luckily most postings on BBR news seem pretty fair and balanced; but the replies, oh man. They jam the rudder at hard-to-starboard and increase speed to flank. No wonder it just goes around in circles. Explain to me how CNN is "far right." |
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KrK
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said by NormanS :The media of this country, and the entertainment industry as well, has a very definite leftward slant. Well, if you expand media to Hollywood, yes, there are a lot of liberal ideas often expressed in entertainment. However, these days, when it comes to the news outlets, I would have to say I disagree that there is any left "bias". I see administration and corporate PR just parroted as if it was fact, with lots of glitz and flash and little substance or investigative reporting. I guess the "News" has moved from "Informative" over to "Entertainment" as well.... You'll see a rush to cover the latest sex scandal or cover-up of a dirty secret and they turn a blind eye to things like fraud, waste, technology beneficial to all mankind, etc. I guess those headlines aren't "sexy" enough.
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