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Re: Easy solution for both content & access providers ...
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If your idea is so smart, why don't ANY providers actually do that?
They don't do that because of the way the Internet service community arose. In the early days it was difficult to do the accounting on a byte per byte basis and the ISPs would have actually made less money if they had charged by the byte.
In 1998 I was operating a dialup ISP with only 8 phone lines and I *DID* bill by the byte. I had 56 subscribers. I billed five dollars per month for access and so many cents per minute on line.
The highest monthly bill I ever send out was about 18 dollars. So the idea is smart and does work.
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I mean, you would so like to see charging by the byte, but if I pay by the byte, then I only pay for bytes I specifically request. That means no pop-ups, no banners, no ads, no spam, no nothing.
Since your browser pulls those pop-ups, banners, ads and spam and since the ISP has no way of knowing which banners, ads, and spam you don't want, you do pay for those bytes. Otherwise someone would tell the ISP that he was censoring their data. Clearly nobody wants censorship. We are an ISP and we do not manage *ANY* content to our users. They get whatever they pull. They are responsible if their fifteen year old pulls kiddie porn, even if mom and dad don't want it. As far as that goes, if someone comes to us with a subpoena regarding content, we answer it as soon as possible and as completely as possible. So will you on that upstream 10 mb torrent if you share the wrong stuff. You may think otherwise but it is hard to stop the Marshall from carrying your server out the door while you are explaining to his buddy that the handcuffs are not necessary. 
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I get only exactly what I want, because otherwise, the ISP is ripping me off. It's not MY fault I use over 1000GB/month.
Whose fault is it then? Of course it is your fault you use the bandwidth you use. If you provide a service and people use it, you are responsible for sending those bytes. You can turn off the service, can you not? If you use a service on the Internet, you are responsible for those bytes. You are not required to use that service, are you?
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I am paying for a PIPE to the internet, and I can use it as I see fit.
We have a 10 MBit pipe to the Internet which is shared among our customers. If you were to pull 1000 GB/Month that would equate to approximately 30 percent of the total traffic that our connection to the Internet can support. Should you be charged thirty percent of our total cost for our fractional DS-3? Well if you were not, we would go out of business fairly quickly, would we not?
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If they want to charge me more than 35.00 for a 10/10 connection, then they should. Oh, WAIT, I get my internet access from my town owned utility! I guess the taxpayers are subsidizing me! Haha!
It is good that you feel you are getting over on the taxpayers, at least that demonstrates that you have a grasp of the truth, even if your grasp of business realities is somewhat shakey. | |
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If your idea is so smart, why don't ANY providers actually do that? I mean, you would so like to see charging by the byte, but if I pay by the byte, then I only pay for bytes I specifically request. That means no pop-ups, no banners, no ads, no spam, no nothing. I get only exactly what I want, because otherwise, the ISP is ripping me off. It's not MY fault I use over 1000GB/month. I am paying for a PIPE to the internet, and I can use it as I see fit. If they want to charge me more than 35.00 for a 10/10 connection, then they should. Oh, WAIT, I get my internet access from my town owned utility! I guess the taxpayers are subsidizing me! Haha!
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