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lotusracer
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death of a Lotus Elise

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Elise that fell off of a lift
Be VERY careful when taking any car to be worked on....

Accident at a Goodyear...

»www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthr···?t=30674

More Pictures here...

»www.my914-6.com/crap/

Wasnt Me
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

Ouch!! You have to put those cars on a lift a specific way.. apparently, Goodyear chose to ignore all of that. The post says the car was paid off too... that hurts.

MPScan
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This is the best "Caption This!" thread ever.
matt5

join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY
That's why I hate being under cars when they are up on a lift.

I'd be asking for a new car ouch.

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Death? No. Significant body damage? Hell yeah. I'm sure Goodyear will pay out the nose for that one.

lotusracer
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

said by seaquake See Profile :

Death? No. Significant body damage? Hell yeah. I'm sure Goodyear will pay out the nose for that one.
If you read the Elise forum thread, you will see that the general consensus is that the car should be written off. The fact that they used the wrecker to winch it down and used the front suspension to hook onto is not good..... the hole in the floor is another bad thing... the floor panel is part of the chassis and not replaceable.

72276539
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

said by lotusracer See Profile :

said by seaquake See Profile :

Death? No. Significant body damage? Hell yeah. I'm sure Goodyear will pay out the nose for that one.
If you read the Elise forum thread, you will see that the general consensus is that the car should be written off. The fact that they used the wrecker to winch it down and used the front suspension to hook onto is not good..... the hole in the floor is another bad thing... the floor panel is part of the chassis and not replaceable.
That type of thing done to the front suspension is not good at all and I'll put money on the fact the mount points are just plain fracked. I've done P L E N T Y of work with getting cars out of weird spots and onto tow vehicles, and can tell you NO car will take kindly to what is in the pictures.
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

While I agree that what happened to that car isn't a good thing in any way shape or form, I dont see the straps on the frt suspension as the worst idea in the world.

If the car is really that light in the frt end (as evidenced by rolling backward off the hoist), then there wouldn't be that much force on the straps.
I dare say that 3 strong people could support the car in that position while the hoist is lowered, then "roll" the frt end down toward the ground.
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TheHarvester
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said by seaquake See Profile :

Death? No. Significant body damage? Hell yeah. I'm sure Goodyear will pay out the nose for that one.
I used to work for Goodyear when I was first starting out. One of the other stores drooped a 15 year old Dodge car of some sorts that some old lady owned from new. It was a $1,500 at most and she got $17,000 dollars for "sentimental value". Must have gotten a good lawyer

CylonRed
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WHY is the IDIOT who owns it taking it to GOODYEAR?!?!?!?!? FOr gods sake - take it to a place that knows what they are doing to that car...

72276539
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

said by CylonRed See Profile :

WHY is the IDIOT who owns it taking it to GOODYEAR?!?!?!?!? FOr gods sake - take it to a place that knows what they are doing to that car...
Read the frackin thread before commenting ijit.
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

said by 72276539 See Profile :

said by CylonRed See Profile :

WHY is the IDIOT who owns it taking it to GOODYEAR?!?!?!?!? FOr gods sake - take it to a place that knows what they are doing to that car...
Read the frackin thread before commenting ijit.
Read it and will only amend iy yo say - What idiot lets someone OTHER than the ONE person he trusts work on it.... If his FIL is not there - why drop it off at all - especially at a GoodYear...? Sorry - my opinion has not changed....
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

Financial wealth is not a garantee of intelligence or common sense.
muecker

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Do all lotuses have the undercarriage covered like that or is that custom?

PunkGod

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Looks fake.

72276539
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

said by PunkGod See Profile :

Looks fake.
Your basis for that?
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Happened to my brother-in-law a few years ago with his Dodge Ram. Thing was totaled. This happened at the same dealer that had just re-opened their garage a few months before after burning it (and a number of customer's cars) to the ground. Idiot's are everywhere, not just at third-party shops (though you do get more there).

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If the guy spent this much money on the car he should buy the tires and put them on his car at the house him self. I personally wouldent trust ANYONE specaily some 18 year old goodyear mechanic (Or the young stupid kids
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

Seen that a few times at Porsche when removing the engines. You have to set the car back enough when removing the engine, if not car does a swan dive off the lift.

Healbot
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said by MysticGogeta See Profile :

I personally wouldent trust ANYONE specaily some 18 year old goodyear mechanic (Or the young stupid kids
Based on the pictures why is it safe to assume it was some teen mechanic, obviously if something horrible happens first to blame is those crazy kids :rolls eyes:

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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

said by Healbot See Profile :

said by MysticGogeta See Profile :

I personally wouldent trust ANYONE specaily some 18 year old goodyear mechanic (Or the young stupid kids
Based on the pictures why is it safe to assume it was some teen mechanic, obviously if something horrible happens first to blame is those crazy kids :rolls eyes:
I'm 17 I know a lot of kids in my high school and trust me I would believe it.
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Yeah, after I looked at his website, I was surprised that he would take it to a place like Goodyear to get the tires done.

Glenn
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Damn! I'd be highly agitated.
GunnarDanne

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I have a friend who lost a friend because he put a truck on a lift with a 4-wheeler on it. It fell off and smashed his brains out.

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What disturbs me about that owners post is how calm he sounds about the whole thing. I would have literally murdered everyone in that garage!
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

said by Ry See Profile :

What disturbs me about that owners post is how calm he sounds about the whole thing. I would have literally murdered everyone in that garage!
I dunno. My car is hardly exotic, but it is fairly rare. Since it's not the only one, and I know that isn't the only Lotus Elise around, it can be replaced. Due to the hyper-exotic construction techniques used in the Lotus, it does look like a total loss.

I would be a bit perturbed by their incompetence and inability to follow instructions, but murder is a bit much. Either way, being upset isn't going to get the car replaced any quicker, and a calm person will probably get a bit farther with their insurance than a raving lunatic.

At the end of the day, it's a car, meant to be driven. They all are. And driving is going to cause wear, tear, and even a bit of damage. Nature of the beast. Sure, it sucks when someone else's stupidity causes your car to get damaged, but it's still only a car. It can be fixed or replaced.

My Mercedes S-class got totaled a few years back, and I was more put out about having to go through the paperwork and assorted BS than I was about the car getting wrecked. It's a car. And I had just put a new transmission into it. I actually explained that calmly to the adjuster (for the other party's insurance), showed him a receipt, and he made an appropriate adjustment to their compensation. I got what I thought the car was worth, so I was happy, and able to replace it with an even nicer car.

As long as they rent him something roughly equivalent in the meantime, he should be fine. (Actually, he mentioned a Porsche of some sort as a back up, so he's obviously not suffering for cars. It does stink that he won't be able to take his Lotus to the Lotus event her organized.)
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As a Car enthusiast It's really sad to me to see a Elise this way, but anyway I'm glad it didn't happened to a Enzo or McLaren.

Wanna Suffer? see www.wreckedexotics.com

miscnick

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The car is scrapped.

That particular Lotus is glued (bonded) together with the floorpan being the main chassis member.
(kindly note the orange blobs of glue under the front suspension areas).

It cannot be repaired.

winky
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Taking any car you care about to a chain is just plain retarded. Just as well it's totaled, they probably already used an impact on the lug nuts, tightened them sequentially at 150psi, put the wheel weights on the outside and scraped the rims on the tire changer. I've come to the conclusion that the exotic market is driven by people with money who want to look "cool" and don't know or care about cars. This guy doesn't know jack about cars.

Wills

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Port Charlotte, FL

Anyone who takes a car like that to a place like that, and has that happen, deserves to be pointed and laughed at.

I won't take my beat up truck to Goodyear, but he feels confident taking a Lotus Elise there? I think we found the president of the "More Money Than Brains" club.
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

If people would bother to read the links in the aryicles, they would know that his father in law was the manager of that Good Year center, but wasn't working due to a medical condition.

CylonRed
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Re: death of a Lotus Elise

Nope - it ws read and I made a second post on it... Did not change my opinion of it anyhow...
Barfly

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Portland, OR
Said by the owner (qball):
"Dammit!!!! And I have the Central Florida Lotus Fun Run on Saturday which I've been organizing. Guess I'll have to drive the 911."

After reading that, I don't feel quite as sorry for the rich SOB.

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ouch that little hit totaled it. its a sweet car but there are times im happy to have my crappy ole truck. i took a Subaru at speed to the driver side and the door still worked and it drove true.
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