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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to lotusracer
Re: death of a Lotus Elise

ouch that little hit totaled it. its a sweet car but there are times im happy to have my crappy ole truck. i took a Subaru at speed to the driver side and the door still worked and it drove true.
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
reply to seederjed
Nope - it ws read and I made a second post on it... Did not change my opinion of it anyhow...

seederjed

join:2005-02-28
Snellville, GA
reply to Wills
If people would bother to read the links in the aryicles, they would know that his father in law was the manager of that Good Year center, but wasn't working due to a medical condition.


elias
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reply to cdru
said by cdru See Profile :

said by elias See Profile :

If you've ever gotten in and out of one, you'll know it's definitely not a daily driver. A 911 is daily driver material, but not the Elise.

I just looked at the rest of his site, and he says this:
quote:
Current I drive a BMW 545i with sports suspension[...]
. It can be seen in the picture of his Elise in the garage.
So he has (had?) a Elise, owns a 911, rebuilding a 914-6, and drives a BMW 545. I'm leaning more to what OiL4 See Profile said above. I feel bad as it was a beautiful, somewhat exotic expensive car and it sucks that it was likely totaled. But I think somehow he'll manage to move on.
Actually, it seems like he doesn't have the BMW anymore. He posted this yesterday:
Well it made it to the M3 Forums according to another ET Thread...

»www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthr···?t=30793

Here's my reply...

Hi M3 Forum members:

I'm a former BMW owner (328is and 545i) and left the marque just a few months ago.

I went to your forums and read your posts.

Please pass this along to your members in my thread...

>>Thanks for the kind words... Yes, my home life is different than most. I've remained level-headed because, you're right, there are worse things in life to stress about. My son Hunter is a precious gift.

When I informed my wife about the Lotus damage, she freaked out... after she calmed down, I told her that the only thing important to me is that she, Hunter, and my family were safe. Everything else is immaterial.

The Elise deal is a mess... but nothing that money, insurance, and time can't resolve.

What a huge difference in maturity expressed by the M3 Forum members, compared to some of the other sites that this "incident" has made it to.

Kind regards,

Qball
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cdru
Go Colts
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Fort Wayne, IN

reply to elias
said by elias See Profile :

If you've ever gotten in and out of one, you'll know it's definitely not a daily driver. A 911 is daily driver material, but not the Elise.

I just looked at the rest of his site, and he says this:
quote:
Current I drive a BMW 545i with sports suspension[...]
. It can be seen in the picture of his Elise in the garage.
So he has (had?) a Elise, owns a 911, rebuilding a 914-6, and drives a BMW 545. I'm leaning more to what OiL4 See Profile said above. I feel bad as it was a beautiful, somewhat exotic expensive car and it sucks that it was likely totaled. But I think somehow he'll manage to move on.
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bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
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San Jose, CA
reply to elias
Yup. Medical consultancy sounds like the gig to be in if you want to own a lot of stuff.


elias
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reply to cdru
said by cdru See Profile :

said by lotusracer See Profile :

Well, just because he has an Elise and a 911 doesn't make him rich.
I was suprised to see that the Elise starts at only $40k. I was expecting more. The 911 though would be an additional $40k+ depending on the year.

My guess though is that neither are their "daily driver" cars and that he is much better-to-do then the average schmoe here.
If you've ever gotten in and out of one, you'll know it's definitely not a daily driver. A 911 is daily driver material, but not the Elise.

I just looked at the rest of his site, and he says this:
quote:
Current I drive a BMW 545i with sports suspension[...]
. It can be seen in the picture of his Elise in the garage.
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bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
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reply to cdru
Did you look at his website? He's rebuilding a 914-6, too.


cdru
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reply to lotusracer
said by lotusracer See Profile :

Well, just because he has an Elise and a 911 doesn't make him rich.
I was suprised to see that the Elise starts at only $40k. I was expecting more. The 911 though would be an additional $40k+ depending on the year.

My guess though is that neither are their "daily driver" cars and that he is much better-to-do then the average schmoe here.
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA

reply to Barfly
said by Barfly See Profile :

Said by the owner (qball):
"Dammit!!!! And I have the Central Florida Lotus Fun Run on Saturday which I've been organizing. Guess I'll have to drive the 911."

After reading that, I don't feel quite as sorry for the rich SOB.
Don't get mad because he has done better then you in life, made more money and was smarter with it. Rise up instead of dragging someone else down.
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MysticGogeta
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said by Healbot See Profile :

said by MysticGogeta See Profile :

I personally wouldent trust ANYONE specaily some 18 year old goodyear mechanic (Or the young stupid kids
Based on the pictures why is it safe to assume it was some teen mechanic, obviously if something horrible happens first to blame is those crazy kids :rolls eyes:
I'm 17 I know a lot of kids in my high school and trust me I would believe it.
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bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
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San Jose, CA
reply to MysticGogeta
Yeah, after I looked at his website, I was surprised that he would take it to a place like Goodyear to get the tires done.


lotusracer
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Moline, IL

reply to Barfly
Re: death of a Lotus Elise

said by Barfly See Profile :

Said by the owner (qball):
"Dammit!!!! And I have the Central Florida Lotus Fun Run on Saturday which I've been organizing. Guess I'll have to drive the 911." After reading that, I don't feel quite as sorry for the rich SOB.
Well, just because he has an Elise and a 911 doesn't make him rich.

All it takes is to have a decent job, with no bad habits (other than the cars anyway). He could very well be like me, I'm not rich, just a retired guy in my 50's who never had kids.

Barfly

join:2005-03-22
Portland, OR
reply to lotusracer
Said by the owner (qball):
"Dammit!!!! And I have the Central Florida Lotus Fun Run on Saturday which I've been organizing. Guess I'll have to drive the 911."

After reading that, I don't feel quite as sorry for the rich SOB.


Wills

join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL

reply to lotusracer
Anyone who takes a car like that to a place like that, and has that happen, deserves to be pointed and laughed at.

I won't take my beat up truck to Goodyear, but he feels confident taking a Lotus Elise there? I think we found the president of the "More Money Than Brains" club.
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Mospaw
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reply to Ry
said by Ry See Profile :

What disturbs me about that owners post is how calm he sounds about the whole thing. I would have literally murdered everyone in that garage!
I dunno. My car is hardly exotic, but it is fairly rare. Since it's not the only one, and I know that isn't the only Lotus Elise around, it can be replaced. Due to the hyper-exotic construction techniques used in the Lotus, it does look like a total loss.

I would be a bit perturbed by their incompetence and inability to follow instructions, but murder is a bit much. Either way, being upset isn't going to get the car replaced any quicker, and a calm person will probably get a bit farther with their insurance than a raving lunatic.

At the end of the day, it's a car, meant to be driven. They all are. And driving is going to cause wear, tear, and even a bit of damage. Nature of the beast. Sure, it sucks when someone else's stupidity causes your car to get damaged, but it's still only a car. It can be fixed or replaced.

My Mercedes S-class got totaled a few years back, and I was more put out about having to go through the paperwork and assorted BS than I was about the car getting wrecked. It's a car. And I had just put a new transmission into it. I actually explained that calmly to the adjuster (for the other party's insurance), showed him a receipt, and he made an appropriate adjustment to their compensation. I got what I thought the car was worth, so I was happy, and able to replace it with an even nicer car.

As long as they rent him something roughly equivalent in the meantime, he should be fine. (Actually, he mentioned a Porsche of some sort as a back up, so he's obviously not suffering for cars. It does stink that he won't be able to take his Lotus to the Lotus event her organized.)


winky
Turn Left At The Moon

join:2001-02-11
Saint Louis, MO

reply to lotusracer
Taking any car you care about to a chain is just plain retarded. Just as well it's totaled, they probably already used an impact on the lug nuts, tightened them sequentially at 150psi, put the wheel weights on the outside and scraped the rims on the tire changer. I've come to the conclusion that the exotic market is driven by people with money who want to look "cool" and don't know or care about cars. This guy doesn't know jack about cars.


miscnick

@rr.com
reply to lotusracer
The car is scrapped.

That particular Lotus is glued (bonded) together with the floorpan being the main chassis member.
(kindly note the orange blobs of glue under the front suspension areas).

It cannot be repaired.

Ferox

join:2006-09-28
57410
reply to lotusracer
Oh my God!!!

As a Car enthusiast It's really sad to me to see a Elise this way, but anyway I'm glad it didn't happened to a Enzo or McLaren.

Wanna Suffer? see www.wreckedexotics.com
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