DaBavarian
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Re: This is the start of a series of headaches for Big Business
Followed by high taxes. You would think with San Fran Values applied Democrats would be more involved in promoting broadband and deployment. Deployment is only going to happen by the means of big business to make it happen with private investment. Maybe there will be a welfare system established broadband now and free computers for all the public funded wifi. |
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KoolMoe
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| said by DaBavarian  : Deployment is only going to happen by the means of big business to make it happen with private investment. What does that even mean?
Are you suggesting the only way for consumers to have broadband available is to depend on private enterprise?
If so, doesn't that completely ignore (and thus become invalid) the multiple muni efforts currently established or under development?
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Maxo
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said by DaBavarian :Deployment is only going to happen by the means of big business to make it happen with private investment. Broadband deployment will happen as companies think it is profitable. If they think deploying technology X at location Y will be profitable they will do it. With the way things have been going competition will be nil and there will be little incentive for ISPs to expand as they won't be in a race with anyone else. They'll do it at their own leisure with minimal risk. If we can get real competition companies will be climbing over each other to offer services and not be left behind.
I'm for deregulation, to a point, but at some point you have to say enough is enough, monopolies are getting too big, and the US is suffering from it.
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DaBavarian
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Personally, I just don't see public funded Internet access being an adequate answer or much of anything else that government provides/runs. If broadband access is considered a "right" as some communities call it then those same communities should also be willing to pay for computers for its residence to access the wifi network. |
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DaBavarian
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said by DaBavarian :Personally, I just don't see public funded Internet access being an adequate answer or much of anything else that government provides/runs. A municipal running a service is not within and of itself a bad thing. Some local governments do a good job, others a bad. Many cities and counties run their own garbage collection/recycling, electricity, water, and other services just fine. There is no reason a locally owned ISP can't do a good job. In fact, many are doing good. If the locals vote to approve having their tax money spent on a muni-ISP then they should have every right to give it a shot. If it fails then it's their own money down the drain.
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dnabdaorb
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so what |
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said by dnabdaorb :
so what
Consider the source:
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Michieru2
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Miami, FL | reply to DaBavarian
Re: This is the start of a series of headaches for Big Business
If it's not worth the profits gained in a particular area, broadband deployment will never come from the private sector, so what is your option? |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by DaBavarian :Followed by high taxes. WRONG! I will put money on that 95% of the population will NOT see any tax increase. More like REDUCED taxes. The 5% that may get a tax increase. Well Bill Gates can afford it. I have no pity for them. One less vacation house. Too fricking bad.
Funny how some peole care more about the people that make substantially more than them( and those rich people don't give a rats behind about them ) than those less fortunate.
If you are in the bottom of that top 5% that means you make at least $175K a year which is 5 times what the average American makes. If you are worried about higher taxes make less money. Quit your job and go work for wal-mart. Otherwise STFU. |
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
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| You, sir, are an idiot.
High taxes are bad news whether your gross income is $12,000 per year or $1.2 million per year.
The era of San Francisco liberal Democrat kookery is upon us. I just wonder how long it will take the sheeple to realize they've been bamboozled. |
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karlmarx
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| "wonder how long it will take the sheeple to realize they've been bamboozled."
Umm, they just realized it two days ago. You know, when they voted OUT the fat cat republican scum from BOTH the house AND the senate. The election was in fact a national referendum on the failed bush regime policies. And the so called 'sheeple' raised their voices, and said 'enough with the republicans, let's get our country BACK on track'
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pabster
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| "And the so called 'sheeple' raised their voices, and said 'enough with the republicans, let's get our country BACK on track'"
Until their taxes go up, gun laws tighten, and millions of taxpayer dollars are wasted on phoney "investigations"...
Trust me, it won't be that long before the sheeple wake up. I give it less than 6 months. |
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lm5449
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Knoxville, TN | reply to karlmarx
 So now we have replaced it with the ultra left scum. Just a few losses next time and you are out again. Do not be to cocky. After people see what the left does, down you will go. |
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
united state | reply to pabster
I'm with you pabster but just to be safe, I will be going to Sportsmans Warehouse next week and purchasing an arsenal of weapons. |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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Why not? The hardest part and the most cost of installing highspeed broadband is laying the fiber in the ground to every house. Even if in a few years it is deemed to costly to upgrade muni hardware, the network is there and probably could easily be rented out to ISPs that can offer more services.
The biggest reason people don't have fiber is the cost, if the towns installed it themselves, they open the door to many options. |
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KrK
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Tulsa, OK | reply to lm5449
Ah, a post that stands as a shining example of all that is wrong with America today. Congratulations! |
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said by pabster :Until their taxes go up, gun laws tighten, and millions of taxpayer dollars are wasted on phoney "investigations"... Trust me, it won't be that long before the sheeple wake up. I give it less than 6 months. While we are digressing, ideals of small government, and fiscal responsibilities GWB has failed to be a conservative. It's pretty bad when a Republican follosw a Democrat and he creates bigger government, bigger government spending, and bigger government interfering with people's personal life than the Dem. It is the failure of GWB to maintain basic conservative values that gave the Democrats their recent gain.
As for waking up, the tide of who stays in party changes. Republicans had their day, Democrats are having their day (and will for a while) then the public will switch back and the cycle will continue.
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guitarzan
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said by karlmarx :. The election was in fact a national referendum on the failed bush regime policies. And the so called 'sheeple' raised their voices, and said 'enough with the republicans, let's get our country BACK on track' It was no national referendum, more like a protest vote against Bush. It was not a rejection of Conservative values. Proof? Seven states banned same sex marriage. Same sex marriage is the breeding grounds for liberalism and voters rejected liberal values. 
It would be a mistake for the Democrats to believe that what happened at he polls was a mandate for their liberal agenda. It was a back-lash against the war and a vote of no-confidence for the President and nothing more. If they push their agenda now they will have their own back-lash to deal with.
Come to think about it, I almost hope they do try to push some ultra-liberal stuff in the next two years. It would serve to help assure a Republican victory in 2008. Sometimes we need to think long-term
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guitarzan
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said by dispatcher21 :I'm with you pabster but just to be safe, I will be going to Sportsmans Warehouse next week and purchasing an arsenal of weapons. Good idea and i would like to add to that.
But what to do? What gesture could we gun owners in particular, and Second Amendment supporters in general, make that would smack these disgusting gun-controllers in the nose?
What if, on just one day of the year, every gun owner in the United States went out and bought a hundred rounds of ammunition?
Given that there are as many as seventy-five million gun owners in the United States, the net result would be that 7.5 billion rounds of ammunition would go into public circulation, in one day.
Now not every gun owner is going to do this. Heck, of the 75 million gun owners, only about 6% (4 million-odd) belong to a Second Amendment-supporting organization like Gun Owners of America, the Second Amendment Sisters, RKBA, and of course the NRA. Not everyone is going to get the word, either, especially as you will hear not a peep about this in the established gun media, let alone in the so-called “mainstream” media.
But what if just 15% of all gun owners bought themselves a hundred rounds of ammo on the same day? That would be over a billion rounds of ammunition going into circulation—and that’s what I’m aiming for.
Heck, gun owners have to buy ammo all the time—we’re just asking that they all buy it on the same day.
Most importantly, however, is what a billion rounds of ammo does for gun ownership in the United States: It sends a message to the local and international gun-grabbers that gun owners have considerable muscle.
If the country is awash in ammunition, it makes the prospect of punitive sales taxes a moot issue—no point in hoping that people will run out of ammunition when everyone has a huge supply of it.
So I’m making a personal appeal to all gun owners and Second Amendment supporters in the United States:
Please buy 100 rounds of your favorite ammunition on week of November 11-19, 2006.
Why this week? Well, the best thing about National Ammo Day/Week is that it’s just an ordinary week, a week before Thanksgiving week. There’s no conflict with any holiday or other event—it’s just an ordinary time of the year.
And the very best present I can think of would be a poke in the eye for all gun-grabbers, gun-fearing wussies and their media lickspittles. Just for one week, I’d like millions of ordinary, law-abiding people to stand up and make a defiant, and legal, gesture at the face of authority.
This is not being sponsored by anyone, and has no official anything. It’s just plain old popular defiance—and it’s perfectly legal, and requires no one to do anything out of the ordinary.
One hundred rounds. More if you can afford it.
November 11-19, 2006.
National Ammo Day/Week.
One billion rounds of ammunition into private hands, in one week.
It'd be easier to go to one of the "little guys" to get your share, though some people say that since Wal-Mart tracks ammo sales, it might make more of an impact if you get it there...
Let's send a message that us gun owners ain't going away!
REMEMBER - the week of NOV 11! If you have any purchases lined up for next week, please hold off if possible to help add it to the "statement!"
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