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Re: Why?
You've been saying this for years.
We've already been over how any company who switched to a bill by the byte model would be at an immediate marketing disadvantage. The only way the industry could shift to that model is en masse, and that's not happening. |
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1 edit | While I don't think you'll see widespead $.xx/MB pricing, I do think you may see more monthly caps like Cox HSI has where you end up paying more to get to the next tier. And rather than the tiers being all about speed, you also see more about upgrading to higher monthly caps.
Since these last mile providers are fairly isolated from competition in their individual markets, you don't have to have an en masse shift. I've had Cox since 1997 (one of the first digital cable/cable BB deployments in the US) and still, 10 years later, my particular neighborhood which is very upscale we doesn't have anything that can compete with them (no WISP, no DSL). In other nearby areas Cox a near-lock on content delivery...Ladera Ranch for example includes Cox HSI in their HOA fees so you have Cox HSI whether you want it or not so even if there is a competitior, people are less likely to use them.
I don't think this is an isolated case. Where cable sees competition from fiber we'll see these restrictions relaxed but in areas like mine I think we'll see providers clamping down and charging more fees if HSI use on a per sub basis increases. |
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| I agree. Until we have national 3-way or more competition the viability of signing up for high-bandwidth technologies, such as video over IP, will not be able to mature. Competition will bring the prices down, and the available bandwidth up. Until then we can just sit around and day-dream of turning Japanese. |
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Karl Bode
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While I don't think you'll see widespead $.xx/MB pricing, I do think you may see more monthly caps like Cox HSI has where you end up paying more to get to the next tier. And rather than the tiers being all about speed, you also see more about upgrading to higher monthly caps.
Yes, I have no doubt there will be caps, tiers, throttled apps, etc. There already is. All manner of slight of hand and fine print. Absolutely.
What TCM proposes is flat billing by the byte, where you use exactly how much bandwidth you use, just like an electric utility. |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by Karl Bode  :What TCM TCH proposes is flat billing by the byte, where you use exactly how much bandwidth you use, just like an electric utility. That is not what I said. This is:
monthly byte caps or cost structures to charge over certain amount of bytes/month
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2 edits | Well then you're changing your position from the last fifty times you've argued in our comment section that users should be billed by the byte.
»Bring on the "charge by byte" model
»Per Byte model will happen if net neutrality laws passed
»Sounds like LR editor advocating per byte bb
»ISP's will switch to byte caps if they can't shape torrents
»The case for usage based billing
There's about sixty more of these from you over the last month.
I keep wondering: do you push this simply because you think it's really a good idea, or for some other reason? |
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1 edit | said by Karl Bode :Well then you're changing your position from the last fifty times you've argued in our comment section that users should be billed by the byte. You can go back and check if you want, but most posts will show pay per byte over a base included tier.
»Sounds like LR editor advocating per byte bb
As for me I have no problem with tiers based on bandwidth consumed instead of speeds. »ISP's will switch to byte caps if they can't shape torrents
caps on traffic(uploads especially for cable companies). And onerous fees for going over the caps. »The case for usage based billing
Nothing in there precludes per byte after cap. Just general usage billing.
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | I did, actually. And only the last two posts you've made advocate per-byte billing over a tier limit. You apparently forged this conclusion after people repeatedly told you general per-byte billion would not work, TKJunkmail. |
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