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I disagree, up to a point

I don't think anyone wants ISPs to be snooping through their subscribers' packets, if for no other reason that, as soon as they start doing it to watch for DDoS attacks, someone will come along and demand they do it for something else, and before you know it, ISPs will be forced to scrutinize packets for all sorts of content.

However, ISPs do need to take responsibility for getting zombies on their networks cleaned up or shut down. Get rid of zombies, and you get rid of most DDoS attacks, spam, and phishing scams. In all the time I've had broadband (since March 2000), I've never once received anything in my bill informing me of how I might protect and secure my PC. Not that I needed it, but many people do. Putting info on a Web site is nice, but how many of your subs visit that site? I'm a Comcast sub, and I hardly ever visit their site. Why should I? As for e-mail, I've never used the mailbox they gave me. I use Yahoo and Gmail. That way, when I change ISPs, I can keep the same address. I suspect many other people do the same, so any messages sent out by an ISP never get read. How about just sending out one stinkin' bill insert? Just one is all I ask. Or insert one TV spot in unsold local ad slots telling people they should secure their PCs. This would cost Comcast next to nothing, since these timeslots are unsold already.

And when people report zombies, ISPs have an obligation to tell the sub to clean their machine or get cut off. No, it doesn't make the ISP money, but it's the right thing to do.


battleop

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"And when people report zombies, ISPs have an obligation to tell the sub to clean their machine or get cut off"

ISPs should be obligated to take care of this kind of traffic. Telcos are not responsible for prank callers but if they are reported to law enforcement and law enforcement comes to the phone company they are obligated to help track down the problem. If reported to ISPs, this should be handled in a timely manner.

I work for a local ISP and most of these reports come to me. I am quick to whack their connection if they don't respond quickly. I also do a lot of preemptive monitoring for such traffic.

I don't understand why mega huge ISPs don't work to kill this stuff quicker. I guess it's because they have mega deep pockets and their fix for the problem is to throw more bandwidth at the problem. These kinds of things cost ISPs money in bandwidth.


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I think the reason is simply that they don't care. Kicking customers isn't a moneymaking proposition, even though it's good for the ISP's network and the Internet in general. Still, these companies don't see any money in it.


battleop

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I have NEVER lost a customer becasue I disabled their access for a virus or worm. They have almost always thanked us for telling them they had a problem.
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