Jonbo298
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gate1975mlm
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| Re: haha said by Jonbo298  :It sold fast in japan because there was only 80,000 to go around If there were 180,000 they would be gone too! | |
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join:2004-01-12
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| Re: haha Well duh, if there was 4 millino that would happen too. But Sony had to deal with a little thing called manufacturing problems on their spiffy new technology and well..its gonna bite them for awhile until blue diodes are more easily to get | |
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TK Junk Mail
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| PS3 I am definitely going to pick up a PS3 (so I can play MGS 4: Guns of the Patriots), but in about 2-3 years when I can pick up the system for a couple hundred bucks, lol.
There is no way in hell I am going to pay over $3-400 for any system. I finally picked up PS2 and xbox when they were around $150 and I am enjoying the hell out of the games I can now pick up for 10-20 bucks. I just don't get the benefit of full servers on some games.
IMO Sony screwed up adding Blu-Ray to all systems. It should have been an external option. It drove the price way too high, and I don't think many will see the Blu-Ray as a deal maker to buy the system. Who knows though, that might change in a couple years.
I also read in Game Informer on a preview of a game (I can't remember which one. I will quote the whole reference if called out) that the load times will be longer for PS3 as opposed to the 360 because of the Blu-Ray drive. That's definitely not a selling point either. | |
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gate1975mlm
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2 edits | Re: PS3 said by TK Junk Mail :I am definitely going to pick up a PS3 (so I can play MGS 4: Guns of the Patriots), but in about 2-3 years when I can pick up the system for a couple hundred bucks, lol. There is no way in hell I am going to pay over $3-400 for any system. I finally picked up PS2 and xbox when they were around $150 and I am enjoying the hell out of the games I can now pick up for 10-20 bucks. I just don't get the benefit of full servers on some games. IMO Sony screwed up adding Blu-Ray to all systems. It should have been an external option. It drove the price way too high, and I don't think many will see the Blu-Ray as a deal maker to buy the system. Who knows though, that might change in a couple years. I also read in Game Informer on a preview of a game (I can't remember which one. I will quote the whole reference if called out) that the load times will be longer for PS3 as opposed to the 360 because of the Blu-Ray drive. That's definitely not a selling point either. You can copy PS3 games to the hard drive so they can load up much faster  And sorry to tell you but you are going to have a real long wait to be able to buy the PS3 for under even $300 | |
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| Re: PS3 said by gate1975mlm :And sorry to tell you but you are going to have a real long wait to be bale to buy the PS3 for under even $300 You're probably right, considering the reliability of Sony and the playstation, people will have to keep buying a new one once a year, which will keep demand up... | |
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TK Junk Mail
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join:2006-07-30
Ocean Gate, NJ
| You can copy PS3 games to the hard drive so they can load up much faster And sorry to tell you but you are going to have a real long wait to be able to buy the PS3 for under even $300
Lol too about the $300. You are probably right about the wait. | |
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Rockaway Park, NY | Re: PS3 No, some games have the option of installing on the hard drive, the game isnt copied. It also doesnt boost preformance, it only speeds up load times making up for the lackluster preformance of a 2x blu ray drive. | |
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cbrigante2
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| Re: haha said by gate1975mlm :said by Jonbo298 :It sold fast in japan because there was only 80,000 to go around If there were 180,000 they would be gone too! An interesting quote from one of the linked sites from an American observer of the launch crowd:
"Hardcore gamers are not here waiting in line overnight, buying a first-run PS3, and running home to play some good old next-gen gaming. Rather, opportunistic Japanese businessmen have the largest presence, hiring poor Chinese men and women to wait in line for a PS3, one which will later be sold on web auctions to wealthy gamers around the world for exorbitant amounts of money."
These systems selling out fast on launch (for 360 and Wii as well) has little to do with gaming. Hell, the first buyer didn't even buy a game to go with the PS3. | |
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Combat Chuck
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| Re: haha said by cbrigante2 :An interesting quote from one of the linked sites from an American observer of the launch crowd: here's the whole thing:
»kotaku.com/gaming/top/foreigners···4130.php
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1 edit | By 2008 there will be a huge graphic difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3! Xbox 360 will not even be in the same league as PS3! Trust me on this
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| Re: haha said by gate1975mlm :By 2008 there will be a huge graphic difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3! and by the end of 2008 there will be a new Xbox out that will spank the PS3. | |
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| Re: haha said by rideboarder :said by gate1975mlm :By 2008 there will be a huge graphic difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3! and by the end of 2008 there will be a new Xbox out that will spank the PS3. Maybe but then PS4 will be out a little after that LOL | |
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join:2006-11-05
Keller, TX
| said by gate1975mlm :By 2008 there will be a huge graphic difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3! Xbox 360 will not even be in the same league as PS3! Trust me on this I am talking about First party games of course. Ummm... Are you smoking crack? I seriously doubt it. At best the PS3 will have a slight edge over the 360. Hardware wise, the differences about equal out. And, how long will it be before the PS3 has a polished game of the same quality as Gears Of War.
Also, I'll take Microsofts Live! over a 3rd party multiplayer solution any day.
P.S. By 2008 the Blue-Ray format will be dead or dying too. Anyone that buys a PS3 is going to be spending $200-300 extra for a Blue-Ray drive. You can't rent Blue-Ray movies and who would want to buy one for $35. What games are going to need more that a full DVD-9 worth of space (nothing...). SONY has a long history of pushing media formats that die - about 10 different ones now (DAT, BETA-MAX, etc etc). | |
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Miami, FL | Re: haha Don't forget about my favorite Mini Disc. | |
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| said by Dreven :Also, I'll take Microsofts Live! over a 3rd party multiplayer solution any day. I won't. The company that made the game will focus on the game play online, instead of letting MS screw with it.
You can't rent Blue-Ray movies Yes you can.
and who would want to buy one for $35. The same thing was said when DVDs came out. They went for the same price back then. BTW, all the BR discs that I've see sit around $29.99 with many at $24.99.
What games are going to need more that a full DVD-9 worth of space (nothing...). Apparently you haven't read what some of the developers have said about the PS3 games then. All of them are over 9GB as of right now.
SONY has a long history of pushing media formats that die - about 10 different ones now (DAT, BETA-MAX, etc etc). So? What's your point. Sony has also had a long history in dominating the gaming industry and knows what gamers want. MS is trying to get into it and really aren't doing well at it, IMO. Besides, the two formats you listed are huge in the professional industry. | |
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clubs:  | Re: haha As a person who sends videos out to be broadcast Beta is still very much alive. Cant beat Beta on picture quality and low wear and tear. | |
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BF69
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Camden, TN
| said by Dreven :P.S. By 2008 the Blue-Ray format will be dead or dying too. Fact is you don't know WHICH one will win so you can make the case that Microsoft offering a HD-DVD drive add-on ONLY to it's 360 owners is also putting them in the same boat. What if they buy the HD-DVD add-on for $200 and HD-DVD loses out? $200 out the window. By the way expalin why a HD-DVD add-on can only cost $200 but and actual HD-DVD player is $500?
It's almost 2007 and the next gen DVD wars haven't even really begun. The VAST majority of people still use good old SDTVs. And those that do have HDTVs are still quite sastisfied with good old DVDs. It will be at least 8 years before a "winner" of the next gen DVD wars is determined and by then the XBOX 720 and PS4 will be out. So it won't matter who "won" to PS3 or 360 owners. | |
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join:2006-06-11
Wilmington, DE
| they designed the ps3 with lots of room to go unlike the 360 which was rushed out of production early :P so waht if 360 got out first i bet the ps3 will destroy 360 in the long run and sure u dont need anything over 9 gigs for a game right now but what about 1080p games in the long run and stuff? think about the size of maps and quests and crap on ps3 | |
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join:2005-05-11
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| Re: haha said by inurenegade :they designed the ps3 with lots of room to go unlike the 360 which was rushed out of production early :P so waht if 360 got out first i bet the ps3 will destroy 360 in the long run and sure u dont need anything over 9 gigs for a game right now but what about 1080p games in the long run and stuff? think about the size of maps and quests and crap on ps3 They had to do that because Sony's life-cycle is a half-decade. 
What good would it do them to put something out that is 'dated' in three years unless they planned on replacing in three? Just imagine all those folks that think their 'top of the line' is 'current' in 3-5 years. Just a thought. | |
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Combat Chuck
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| said by inurenegade :they designed the ps3 with lots of room to go unlike the 360 which was rushed out of production early :P Just so you know, the extra care that sony put in causing delays was nothing more than manufacturing problems, be it blue diode shortages or incredibly low yields on cell processors.
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1 edit | said by gate1975mlm :I am talking about First party games of course. You better hope and pray that you can find developers willing to develop for the platform. Consider:
- Developers are looking to shave costs while reaching the widest audience possible.
- Programming specifically for cell is a PITA
- Porting between PS3 and XB360 is relatively easy because their core architectures are basically the same tho straight ports won't use the cells.
- Straight ports are cheap and allow you to reach a larger audience.
Looking at the reality of the game industry at this point, I don't think your going to see many exclusives. What owners of PS3s and XB360s are looking at is a long series of titles developed to be cross platform; and considering that the only thing that makes cell better are the cells, if a game doesn't use them the PS3 is nothing but a gimped XB360. PS3 might win on paper but those numbers don't look like they're going to survive the jump to reality which puts it up there with such memorable sony failures as betamax, memorystick, minidisk, and CRT based HDTV's.
As for me, I'll stick to PC and possibly Wii.
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