81399672
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join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
| final version will be on p2p soon If this version got leaked,i am sure final final version will get leaked soon as it always happens. Regarding microsoft catching and disabling, it's same thing as with xp, those that know what they are doing can easily get around and those that got no clue get caught | |
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Norwich, CT | Re: final version will be on p2p soon fyi:
The release has the build number 6000.16386.061101-2205.
The key supplied with the warez release is an older RC2-based key, but apparently the Windows setup will allow you to install without a key for a 30-day period. | |
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MSlovepuff
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| final is already out there
just check nforce.nl 
like 8 releases
vista = crap
to slow! I don't want a downgrade maybe if they let openGl take care of there desktop environment.
& Where all the RAM going??
linux XGL takes little cpu compare to vista 3D desktop when u move windows around like crazy cpu goes 100% xgl max it takes is 20% i install it my little bro PC A64 3200+ 1GB of ram 9700pro==(got a 5)on vista performance chart. ( not to mention it took 300MB of ram just when i was idle)
I was trying to play back some (anime) in avi format it wasted 50% of cpu + i open a mpeg2 video @ same time and system start it to choke.
this was with ATI WHQL driver. Maybe it was just A64 3200+ couldn't take it but i can tell u i played HD files before on that system and the avi file takes 15% with spikes on 20% on XP i think i even play some H264 with coreavc on it just fine if i remenber correctly.
vista not touching my main rig | |
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maartena
Kiss my
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Orange, CA
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| Re: final version will be on p2p soon said by MSlovepuff :
final is already out there
vista not touching my main rig
People said the same thing about Windows XP and that they would stick with the 9x world or Win2k.
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swhx7
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join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
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| Re: final version will be on p2p soon Yes and XP got pretty good - after the 1st service pack.
Win 98 (DOS series) to Win 2000 (NT series) was a big improvement. Even NT4 to 2000 (= NT 5.0) was a significant improvement. Windows 2000 was the high point of Microsoft's history.
XP (= NT 5.1) performs as well as 2000 only on better hardware and only with a lot of the unnecessary services and features turned off. Its functional improvements over 2000 are few and are not critical.
For Vista (= NT 6.0) to perform as well as XP or 2000 on the same hardware is laughable. Only on *much* better hardware can it be as fast. And when you turn off the frivolous GUI stuff and unnecessary services, is there any real improvement over XP? A few new features, not critical.
Then there's more DRM, stricter activation requirements - IMHO, it's for diehard fans only, and those who have to use it for games or work. | |
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Nanoprobe
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clubs:  | Re: final version will be on p2p soon BINGO! We have a winner. Next subject please.
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sitrix
join:2002-04-15
Tacoma, WA
| Absolutely RIGHT! Nailed it!
Smart SysAdmins kept production machines and office equipment on Win2k till XP/2k3 matured (at least a year)... Same will have to be said about Vista. If Microsoft didn't strap DX10 onto Vista, then it would have nothing substantial at all over XP, other then some eye candy. After all, by the time DX10 games start to come out, along with DX10 Video cards, that's hopefully when Vista will mature enough for us to start considering an upgrade...
Still, doubling my RAM just so Vista can run strict DRM and monitor my activities, will be a tough pill to swallow. | |
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Davie, FL
2 edits | said by maartena  :People said the same thing about Windows XP and that they would stick with the 9x world or Win2k. I'm a full-time programmer and power user, and I still use 98SE without any problems. I've been using the same base set of files since 1996 -- installed 98 on top of 95 and 98SE on top of 98, copied everything to a new hard drive 4 or 5 times, switched motherboards/CPUs/cases twice and moved the existing hard drives over. I haven't reformatted or reinstalled in 10+ years. I use this PC 12+ hours a day and everything still runs smoothly, with a rare crash maybe once every 3 or 4 weeks. You just need to know how to maintain a computer. I'll upgrade only because Microsoft dropped Windows Update / patch support for ME and earlier, and newer versions of some apps such as Acrobat Reader and Media Player no longer work with 98 (they would probably run just fine but the companies don't want to support an older OS).
XP = 98 + a default theme with huge, ugly title bars and buttons that anyone with sense would change anyway | |
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join:2003-10-01
Columbia, MO
| Re: final version will be on p2p soon XP = 98 + a default theme with huge, ugly title bars and buttons that anyone with sense would change anyway
Um....no...not even close.
While I despise the draconian DRM crap in Vista just as much as the next sysadmin, your statement is utter rubbish, and I pity the people who depend on you for their system administration.
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nemo1966
join:2005-11-15
England
| How can you say:
I'm a full-time programmer and power user, and I still use 98SE without any problems
and then say
and I still use 98SE without any problems
???????????? If you are still using 98 then you aint much of either  
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Stevie Nicks
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| Re: final version will be on p2p soon Just like any restaurant that refers to itself as "a fine dining establishment" isn't, anyone who refers to themselves as "a power user", isn't one.
Funny that the MS bashers are striking up the band already, based on nothing. I've used Vista Ultimate--the official RC1 from the customer review program DVD--on a less-than-optimal laptop (2.2 GHz, 1 GB system RAM, 16 MB video RAM) and the only thing that slowed it down is the lack of proper video space. The functionality, however, is all there.
But, you'll never shut up the anti-Microsoft trolls...so just hit "ignore". | |
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Greer, SC | That's why when I'm not on Linux I still have windows 2000 | |
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nemo1966
join:2005-11-15
England
| said by MSlovepuff :final is already out there just check nforce.nl like 8 releases vista = crap to slow! I don't want a downgrade maybe if they let openGl take care of there desktop environment. & Where all the RAM going?? linux XGL takes little cpu compare to vista 3D desktop when u move windows around like crazy cpu goes 100% xgl max it takes is 20% i install it my little bro PC A64 3200+ 1GB of ram 9700pro==(got a 5)on vista performance chart. ( not to mention it took 300MB of ram just when i was idle) I was trying to play back some (anime) in avi format it wasted 50% of cpu + i open a mpeg2 video @ same time and system start it to choke. this was with ATI WHQL driver. Maybe it was just A64 3200+ couldn't take it but i can tell u i played HD files before on that system and the avi file takes 15% with spikes on 20% on XP i think i even play some H264 with coreavc on it just fine if i remenber correctly. vista not touching my main rig yeah but linux XGL is rubbish. Bit like comparing a Ferrari with a Skoda Estelle.
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