MannyL
join:2002-10-22
Toms River, NJ
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Re: [VoiceStick] BYOD configurations needed
I'm trying to setup an unlocked RT31P2 with Voicestick on line 2 (Line one works with current carrier) When I pick up the phone on line 2 I gte a fast busy signal. would someone review my settings and tell me where I went wrong please |
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w8sdz
join:2001-05-21
Port Orange, FL
1 edit | said by MannyL  :I'm trying to setup an unlocked RT31P2 with Voicestick on line 2 (Line one works with current carrier) When I pick up the phone on line 2 I gte a fast busy signal. would someone review my settings and tell me where I went wrong please You forgot two items:
NAT Keep Alive Enable: Yes
NAT Keep Alive Dest: $PROXY
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christcorp
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Manny, try putting in Port 5061 in the SIP Port setting. When you have a 2 line adapter, you sort of need to separate the two lines by port, because both lines use the same IP address. Being vonage is on line 1, and I don't know what port it is using, port 5061 should be a safe bet. Later... Mike.... |
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MannyL
join:2002-10-22
Toms River, NJ | reply to w8sdz
Thank you, change made problem still exists |
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biomesh
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join:2006-07-08
Tomball, TX | Does your device show line 2 as being registered?
If it does, then you might want to change your dialplan.
You should also clear out the "Auth ID:" field as it is not needed. |
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MannyL
join:2002-10-22
Toms River, NJ
| said by biomesh :Does your device show line 2 as being registered? If it does, then you might want to change your dialplan. You should also clear out the "Auth ID:" field as it is not needed. I'm at work now but yes Line 2 showed as being registered. Do you know what the dialplan should be? |
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christcorp
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| The dialplan should have nothing to do with getting a dial tone instead of a fast busy. A fast busy means that it can't find the SIP server that you are wanting to use, or that it's not configured properly for a call.
But, to answer your question, you can put in the simplest of dialplans by putting in an "X." without the quotes obviously. That dialplan allows you to dial any number, as many times as you need. Obviously, a local call would still require all 11 digits. But, that is the most basic of dialplans.
I didn't look last night, but I am wondering if there is something in the neutral settings under SIP, provisioning, or region that is messing with line 2. Later... Mike.... |
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biomesh
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Tomball, TX
| said by christcorp :The dialplan should have nothing to do with getting a dial tone instead of a fast busy. A fast busy means that it can't find the SIP server that you are wanting to use, or that it's not configured properly for a call. I put his dialplan into my device and had the same problem he is experiencing. |
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digiblur
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join:2002-06-03
Louisiana
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said by BruceN :The free incoming number with voicemail is a great overall cost for us. We pay for the DID number, E911 to Intrado, and of course the incoming calls we pay for. I've always thought the incoming calls didn't cost VoIP providers anything.
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sokhapkin
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Somerset, NJ
| said by digiblur :I've always thought the incoming calls didn't cost VoIP providers anything. Wrong assumption. VOIP providers have to purchase DIDs to offer to their customers.
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digiblur
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| said by sokhapkin :said by digiblur :I've always thought the incoming calls didn't cost VoIP providers anything. Wrong assumption. VOIP providers have to purchase DIDs to offer to their customers. I never said I assumed the DID's were free.
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PhilAIV
join:2002-02-16
Carrollton, GA
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| Yeah, sokhapkin misunderstood what you were referring to. I know whomever they get their DID's from (probably level 3) receives money from the incoming calls. The calling party's provider has to pay for access. (whenever the call is an interstate call that is. Local incoming calls don't pay to send calls to another network that is local to them.) Though Level 3 most likely doesn't pass along the money and instead charges voicestick per minute fees for the incoming calls.
New thought: Level 3 probably doesn't pass along the money because there probably isn't enough money to pass along. Take for instance a company like Verizon Wireless. VZW has a large network therefore any calls they send to other networks they would send out their gateway closest to the gateway the call is going to which is most likely going to be a local call and no money will be paid.
Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. (It wouldn't be the first time, lol.)
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christcorp
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| This is definitely something that can get a little tricky. The people to ask about this is probably people like Brendan and Tim. They run the services, and probably know exactly the answer.
What makes it tricky 1st of all is the premise of a LOCAL call. Providers like Viatalk send all RTP traffic from the voip customer to their Server which could be a number of states away. From there, it is then sent to the called location. Even if that call was local to the caller, it could leave the state and come back in. The next thing to consider is the contracts between providers and backbone. For instance, while you consider Verizon as large, with a large network, I believe that Level 3 is the largest backbone provider in the country. Qwest, Verizon, SBC, as well as the majority of voip providers have contracts with level 3 to send packets around the country. So, a contract between a voip provider and level 3 could be based on a different agreement, then say an RBOC like Verizon or Qwest that might send information part of the way on their network and Level 3 for the remainder. The point is, voip doesn't really deal with "Local" vs "Long Distance".
Maybe Brendan, Tim, or one of the other CEO/Owners/etc... can jump in and explain part of the cost of moving a call via voip. Later... Mike... |
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BruceN
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join:2006-11-17
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| WOW, this thread is getting very educational! Good job.
VOIP economics 101. Not that I am an expert but I do see the bills. VOIP is more expensive then you might think. The costs look like this, we rent the DID from Level3 (a good solid place for quality) We don't rent a single DID but we must rent a large pool. My guess is that we have 3 times more DID's that are in use. It takes a lot of inventory to cover (my guess) 96% or the exchanges. So if a DID say costs 60 cent the true burden is maybe $2.50. Next is the e911 cost. I know it is under $1, but not much. Then there is the incoming call cost. Level 3 charges to send the call from the local area to our switch in Atlanta. So even a call such as Voice Mail has an incoming cost.
So an account with a DID, e911, Voicemail and say 200 minutes of incoming is costing us (before labor, internet, fire insurance and so on) $4.50 |
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christcorp
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Cheyenne, WY
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| Great information Bruce. Thanks for the lesson. Definitely appreciate it.
On a side note, FWIW, I really like and am satisfied with Voicestick. While it isn't currently my PRIMARY line, I definitely use it and am starting to use it more often. I never checked, but can a number be ported to Voicestick? That's one thing my wife is big into; not changing phone numbers. I like having 2 different providers, as backup to each other, but being able to port a number over would be nice. Thx... Mike... |
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global_dev
join:2005-09-23
Woodbridge, VA
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said by BruceN :said by markosjal :Also I had sent a message to support, through your web portal, noting that the billed amount of at least one destination was different than the posted rate. I believe it was Guadalajara Mexico 52 33 XXX XXXX . I received no reply to that message. Accurately billing according to the posted rate is a basic customer need (and I would say a right!). It is a shame it was not replied to. I do not want to sound too harsh here, but I need to post what I feel is the truth. markosjal.... Not sure why you did not get an answer to your question about rates. We double check every rate, but I would still bet that there are a couple errors in the file. Can you tell me which ones they are? I will be happy to look at them, and fix and credit if broken. Bruce i2telecom I had a smiliar experience trying to call to Moscow, Russia. Talked to an VS rep who told me she was going to elevate the matter and have it checked into with an engineer. Called 2x and sent an email via the portal. Never a reply. The math just didn't add up and the audio was pretty bad. It was a poor experience . |
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MannyL
join:2002-10-22
Toms River, NJ
| Ok I have 50% success now.
I removed the AuthID and changed the dialplan to an X.
I now get a dialtome when I pickup the line. When I hit any key on my phone it goes to a busy signal. :-(
If someone calls me on the number it rings through and I can answer it.
Suggestions and ideas? |
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christcorp
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1 edit | Sorry if this is a stupid question, but do you have a ( before and a ) after the dialplan. All dial plans start and end with a bracket. If you have a more detailed dialplan, then each new part of the plan is separated by a verticle line. "The shift-key above the enter key on the keyboard". Later... Mike....
e.g. (X.) |
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MannyL
join:2002-10-22
Toms River, NJ | yes my dial plan is
(X)
I get the dial tone but when I hit any key on the phone it fails. I am able to recieve calls though |
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slow mo
join:2002-03-19
USA
1 edit | I have a working Voicestick on my PAP2. I figure they are very similar. So this is the setup. |
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