TKJunkMail
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1 edit |  Shoots theory that cable can't compete against Verizon Fios
If anyone still believes that cable won't be able to compete against Verizon's Fios, I guess this should make them rethink that. »Cable: The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated
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china crisis
join:2003-05-28
| Yes, some users in the FIOS forum whining that their connection is not fast enough.
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danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA | reply to TKJunkMail
mmmm no....see post below....FIOS can roll out symetric speeds of multi-hundred meg bps any time it feels the need to....
those of us on fios can see the jealousy still dripping from your keyboards...regardless of what plan we are on... |
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dadkins
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1 edit | said by danclan  :mmmm no....see post below....FIOS can roll out symetric speeds of multi-hundred meg bps any time it feels the need to.... those of us on fios can see the jealousy still dripping from your keyboards...regardless of what plan we are on... Can and Will are two different words my friend!
I see jealousy steaming from your post! 
What speeds are you getting? Uh huh... Sure as hell isn't 50/50, is it?
Here is the question - Why not?
EDIT: Think about this:
Some of our friends in the Sacramento/Roseville, CA area have had 10/10 fiber for YEARS!
Some of them are getting 30/30 as we sit here discussing your FiOS!
A few people in Emeryville, CA have access to Gigabit fiber!
FiOS aint all that friend!
OOL is now starting to step on your toes and you can't handle it...
Don't hate!
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Midak
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| Very true. I know people in certain parts of CO has 10/10 service years ago and it was not just locally contained as I was able to DL from them at top speeds and I'm in NY. As for this, FiOS is better than CV and vice versa, everyone smile please. This is just the next step in the one-up-manship that you can expect to see by both companies so that those of us lucky enough to be in the same markets as both, can only make out. Once CV rolls this out, FiOS will follow suit and Dadkins, you best believe that FiOS can and will do this without any upgrade needed on the user's end. Competition is a great thing so unless you guys work for VZ or CV, smile and shake hands as we are on the verge of another major upgrade to both systems.  |
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dadkins
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| I am aware that it will likely be an easy upgrade. 
My question is why is/was/has it been so one sided from the beginning? I mean, if you are going to "Lead the Pack" why not do it all out?
Want to impress everyone, make all FiOS customers a minimum of 5/5! Also, make the other packages ?30/30?
Seeing as it can be(and is being) done, what's the holdup?
I really get tired of all the FiOS fans bragging, then when some other ISP's name is raised, we hear Verizon appologist/nay sayers.
Verizon is NOT the end all, be all that some would like us all to believe!
OOL with this, and other ISPs seem to be able to do it, why not Verizon?
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Midak
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| Same reason that OOL first upgraded their offerings in FiOS areas - need. It's simple supply and demand. Right now, both services are offering some of the best tiers of broadband in the country (if not THE best.) They are both competing with each other for our business. As soon as OOL released their sym. 50/50 package, FiOS will either top it or offer the same for less. Now, does anyone here on this site, the power broadband users in the country, need 50/50? Hell no! Even so, we want it if it's offered. At this point, for either side, it's all about marketing who is the fastest. Bookmark this thread and let's revisit it once OOL actually releases this in certain areas, no doubt, and let's see then what FiOS is offering in the same areas. |
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squid7
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It's easy to claim supply of such fast service when you have a long history BW throttling anyone who actually uses the service. Whether it's CV, Comcast or Cox, they speak big but deliver little when people actually start using their "BMW" services. Verizon on the other hand has no such history of throttling or caps that I've seen. |
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dadkins
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Thank you!
Glad to see that someone gets it!
Problem is, the fanboys.
Read over this thread, you'll see what I'm talking about.
As soon as this was posted as a news item, the FiOS crew started frothing at the mouth!  |
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Midak
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| See, that's dumb. The only FiOS customers that have anything to whine about should be the one's not in OOL areas. For the FiOS fanboys, if I have not already made this clear, cheer on OOL with any increase in service and know that FiOS will follow. For the CV fanboys, FiOS can compete and this is good for you too. The 50/50 would likely be many more years away if FiOS was not being rolled out in the CV areas. Regardless if you use CV or VZ, you are now the envy of all the rest of the country who dreams of the 10/1 package about to hit their area. |
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squid7
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| This selective competition is certainly the case with FiOS. In the vast majority of FiOS markets, they don't get the sweet deal brought on by competition from Cablevision. 5/2 and 15/2 is the norm under $50 deal with 30Mb available for about $180/mo. Where they face competition from CV, higher speed FiOS plans are more in line with typically residential HSI pricing.
And while on that subject, CV isn't the only ones responding to FiOS and vice-versa. TimeWarner in Huntington Beach is engaging in selective competition offering 15Mb speeds in the face of FiOS. In other non-FiOS SoCal markets I see their "extreme" service is 8Mb. »/archive/?zip=9264 |
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EnasYorl
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said by Midak :Same reason that OOL first upgraded their offerings in FiOS areas - need. It's simple supply and demand. Right now, both services are offering some of the best tiers of broadband in the country (if not THE best.) They are both competing with each other for our business. As soon as OOL released their sym. 50/50 package, FiOS will either top it or offer the same for less. Now, does anyone here on this site, the power broadband users in the country, need 50/50? Hell no! Even so, we want it if it's offered. At this point, for either side, it's all about marketing who is the fastest. Bookmark this thread and let's revisit it once OOL actually releases this in certain areas, no doubt, and let's see then what FiOS is offering in the same areas. Very true.
FiOS has a huge advantage over other technologies based on it's small amount of homes per fiber.
B-PON is 622Mbps Down/155Mbps up for 32 homes.
G-PON(now being deployed in certain areas) 2500Mbps/622Mbps for 64 homes.
I love competition as I just keep getting more for basically the same or less cost. |
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