matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT | reply to broadbander
Re: UN is Worthless
I'd be willing to bet when electricity was invented there were still some people saying "What do we need this for? Candles and fire work just fine." |
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Midak
Doctors suck
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join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY
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To the anon: Your seeing it all wrong and looking too far ahead. Think of it as building a house. You start with the foundation because that is what will keep the house standing. You don't roll into the dirt and drop a line of fiber optic cable and say this will build you up and get you going. "Yeah, until you get bricks and lumber, you can at least sit in the dirt and download porn."
Once you have a solid structure, then you bring in your utilities, not before. |
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broadbander
join:2005-07-21
Brooklyn, NY
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said by pnh102  :said by nasadude :you don't think broadband is important? No. And broadband is certainly not as important as feeding the hungry, helping the poor to not be poor, disarming terrorist groups, not raping the vulnerable, steering clear of bribes from corrupt governments, and protecting human rights. All of these things are what the UN is supposed to be doing. Is electricity a utility? How about transporation systems? |
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asdfdfdf
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Midak
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Their argument would be that the two are related. In order to be able to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads people need to participate fully in the economy. The concern is not just with providing charity to feed and house people, but with creating the conditions that allow them to become self-sufficient. If you want people to be able to become self sufficient they have to have access to the tools of the modern economy and an increasingly important tool is communications access. Societies without the proper communications and transportation infrastructure generally remain societies that are perpetually economically backward and isolated.
Obviously this is complicated by the many other reasons that people may be economically isolated, including things like wars, perverse and corrupt governments etc., but I don't think the failure of the UN to solve global poverty and war necessarily renders their argument illegitimate. |
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Midak
Doctors suck
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join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY
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said by nasadude :you a luddite or somthin'? I agree the UN can and should be doing all those things you mention, but I hate to tell ya, broadband is the future whether you believe it or not. Sorry but without all those other things, those people have no future that broadband could create. Also, you would be hard pressed to find a luddite on this site. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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said by nasadude :you a luddite or somthin'? What's more important? Paying for broadband or making a mortgage payment? If I had to choose between the two, I will guarantee that keeping a roof over my head is a wee bit more important than broadband.
said by nasadude :that's why I think the U.S. will eventually suffer in the world community if we don't get our sheeit together about making real broadband available thruout the country. And in the meantime, anyone who wants broadband in the USA is free to do what I did and move to where the broadband is. People who willingly choose to move to an unserved area have no one to blame but themselves for their predicaments.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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you a luddite or somthin'?
I agree the UN can and should be doing all those things you mention, but I hate to tell ya, broadband is the future whether you believe it or not.
that's why I think the U.S. will eventually suffer in the world community if we don't get our sheeit together about making real broadband available thruout the country. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
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said by nasadude :you don't think broadband is important? No. And broadband is certainly not as important as feeding the hungry, helping the poor to not be poor, disarming terrorist groups, not raping the vulnerable, steering clear of bribes from corrupt governments, and protecting human rights. All of these things are what the UN is supposed to be doing.
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Only SHATNER is Kirk. |
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