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Wheaton, IL
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| Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin I was listening to some of my friends talk about their respective colleges and how their internet works in their dorms and it made me think.
One of my friends goes to the University of Illinoi at Chambana and he says that they get a, rather low, 750mb daily transmission ammount (both up and down) per computer. However, nothing (as far as he can tell) is blocked which includes torrents, DCC and other P2P programs (they will still nabb you for doing illegal stuff though).
Another one of my friends is going to the much smaller Taylor University (a Christian college in indiana). He says they have no limit on bandwidth but alot of website/services are blocked.
So, which would you prefer if the choice was yours? Unlimited bandwidth but highly restricted content or quite limited bandwidth but no blocked legal content?
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53059959
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PwnZone | Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin unlimited bandwidth. being a computer nerd, I know how to bypass content filters.
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin said by 53059959  :course, not if it meant I had to go to a christian college Word.
I tried recommending proxies to my friend but he tried and any site he went on was blocked (almost as if they blocked the proxy servrs). I know the use of proxies can be noted and it looks like they filter for it.
Are there alternate forms for bypassing content protection? Cause I would much rather have the unblocked content and limited bandwidth than the other way.
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Wheaton, IL
| Technically, there is no bandwidth limit down here at UIUC. Just change your MAC address, and you're good to go.
Of course, they tend to notice if 27 computers log on within a 4 hour period in your room.
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin Yeah, my friend said they notice the change in mac address and one student had his ENTIRE ROOM (not just his puter) removed from network and faced disciplinary action...
So yes, technically there IS a bandwidth limit... there is just a work around.
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin the easiest way to bypass content protection would be to have a server on the outside you can use as an intermediary.
theres threads about this every year in this forum. basically if your not willing to fork up any money, you have very few options. | |
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| At Ithaca College, they don't monitor your connection or block any ports. You do have to pay for the speed tier you want though and the highest I saw was 3 Mbps
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devicenull
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| Well, at my school all outside P2P is "blocked", which basically means the major trackers are blocked.
The thing is, we have an internal p2p network.. and once you have experienced downloads via a 100mb lan, you don't ever want to go outside the network 
So I would actually prefer all outside stuff blocked.. it was the STUDENTS decision to do this a couple of years ago. | |
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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| Another of my friends down at UofI had a very interesting story! So, routers are not allowed in the dorm rooms (not entirely sure why) but hubs and switches are so you can have multiple computers connected (great for seti farms).
Anyways, by putting a router in, they detect it and block internet to your room till you remove it. How do they detect it? A router increases TTL by 1 so they check for odd number of TTL. What my friend did, was use the WRT54GL router and put a different firmware on it and had it increase the TTL by one so the router actually increased the TTL by 2 so it was back to an even number... no problems all semester! Pure h@x skillz n00b :-P
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join:2001-12-08
Skokie, IL | Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin I wonder if you can get Insight Cable Internet through the dorms, since you can apparently order additional TV services...
snipper, Did your friend use DD-WRT to increase the TTL? | |
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z9_87
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin I'd bet he did use DD-WRT, notice the 54G'L' model.
But aside from that, I had a router behind the switch all last year and had no problems. Didn't mess with anything.
Also, uiuc, uses packet shaping to slow down your torrents and other common p2p protocols. Fortunately it doesn't mess with dc++ and encryption also solves this problem.
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin I have no particular use to use a router, just as long as I can use a switch (and not a hub) to connect my computers, alls good. Traffic shapping? Well not much you can download torrent wise with only 750 up/down (which means you can only download a 375 meg file if you want to 1:1 it and not get banned from the tracker). Encryption works though for traffic shapping? Good to know.
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z9_87
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin figure out how slow you need to limit your download to and set that up so you dont go over the 750. Also you gan easily get away with about 3 different mac adresses per day
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Tom
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Wheaton, IL
| Another option for UIUC (one of four I use to do roughly 5 or 6 GB a day without messing with MAC addresses): if you have a laptop, go to one of the wireless access points on campus (they're everywhere) and connect via the campus VPN. None of them are subject to the 750MB/day limit (and some VPN addresses download 1 or 2 GB an hour, so they're less likely to notice spikes), and traffic is encrypted across most of the campus network (I'm not sure if the VPN sits past the traffic shaping hardware or not).
Also, the only way they catch you torrenting is sniffing traffic for .torrent files downloaded via HTTP. If you can get them another way, you're good to go.
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z9_87
Ill - Ini
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin If what you say is true with the sniffing for torrent files, I can think of tons of legal torrents and plenty of reasons to be using bittorent other than for illegal means. In fact if a site has a torrent and a http download most of the time the torrent will be faster.
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Tom
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin said by z9_87 :If what you say is true with the sniffing for torrent files, I can think of tons of legal torrents and plenty of reasons to be using bittorent other than for illegal means. In fact if a site has a torrent and a http download most of the time the torrent will be faster. I should correct myself: they scan the downloaded torrent files against a list provided by the MPAA and the RIAA to make sure they're illegal. Legal torrents are fine.
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Tom
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin said by r81984 :Purdue has a 5gb limit in a rolling 24 hour period. Purdue does not block anything except the windows networking file sharing ports for offcampus for virus and security reasons. On campus traffic does not count against the bandwidth. Many purdue students use DC++ to share everything they have with only other purdue students. So there is a lot to download that does not count against your bandwidth. I think Purdue has the best system that takes care of most users and prevents crazy abuse from people trying to download 20gb every day. The average user uses under 100mb a day anyways. Yeah, screw Purdue.
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z9_87
Ill - Ini
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| Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin I would say that's jealousy. I would have liked that last year.
But to be honest I really like the insight cable internet I have now. It's like 10/512 or something close and between the four of us using it, the internet really never slows and we have no daily limit.
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Tom
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Wheaton, IL
| said by r81984 :Do you say that from jealousy or because you do not like purdue's system. From what I understand Purdue has the most liberal system while preventing the high cost associated with execessive bandwidth. It just makes everyone happy. Jealousy. Although, I guess you need a higher bandwidth cap because there isn't much else to do in WL
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WiFiguru
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| I go to U of I also and last year I was in a private dorm and we had a 1GB bandwidth limit but yet again we could just change the MAC Addresses. The nice part was, if we got caught, we did not have to deal with the University. We just called the internet provider, and they would reactivate you.
This year, it is so much better. I live in a frat house and we just have 2 DSL lines coming in. The wireless gets kind of slow sometimes but next year we will have a brand new house.
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join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
| Here at USC we get 10GB in any 24-hour period, and 3GB in 2.5hrs. Our connection is 10/10. Seems reasonable to me .. I'm a heavy downloader and have yet to break the caps.
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