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Thinkdiff
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join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY

reply to snipper_cr
Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin

Here at USC we get 10GB in any 24-hour period, and 3GB in 2.5hrs. Our connection is 10/10. Seems reasonable to me .. I'm a heavy downloader and have yet to break the caps.
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WiFiguru
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join:2005-06-21
Lodi, CA
reply to r81984
This is an old topic, but, use a VPN or a SSH tunnel.

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Tom
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join:2000-09-10
Wheaton, IL

reply to r81984
Re: Limited Bandwidth/no blocking or Unlimited Bandwidth/blockin

said by r81984 See Profile :

Do you say that from jealousy or because you do not like purdue's system.

From what I understand Purdue has the most liberal system while preventing the high cost associated with execessive bandwidth. It just makes everyone happy.
Jealousy. Although, I guess you need a higher bandwidth cap because there isn't much else to do in WL
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z9_87
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reply to r81984
I would say that's jealousy. I would have liked that last year.

But to be honest I really like the insight cable internet I have now. It's like 10/512 or something close and between the four of us using it, the internet really never slows and we have no daily limit.
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r81984
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reply to Tom
Do you say that from jealousy or because you do not like purdue's system.

From what I understand Purdue has the most liberal system while preventing the high cost associated with execessive bandwidth. It just makes everyone happy.
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Tom
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reply to r81984
said by r81984 See Profile :

Purdue has a 5gb limit in a rolling 24 hour period. Purdue does not block anything except the windows networking file sharing ports for offcampus for virus and security reasons.

On campus traffic does not count against the bandwidth.

Many purdue students use DC++ to share everything they have with only other purdue students. So there is a lot to download that does not count against your bandwidth.

I think Purdue has the best system that takes care of most users and prevents crazy abuse from people trying to download 20gb every day.

The average user uses under 100mb a day anyways.
Yeah, screw Purdue.
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itsmethee
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reply to snipper_cr
I go to U of I also and last year I was in a private dorm and we had a 1GB bandwidth limit but yet again we could just change the MAC Addresses. The nice part was, if we got caught, we did not have to deal with the University. We just called the internet provider, and they would reactivate you.

This year, it is so much better. I live in a frat house and we just have 2 DSL lines coming in. The wireless gets kind of slow sometimes but next year we will have a brand new house.
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r81984
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reply to snipper_cr
Purdue has a 5gb limit in a rolling 24 hour period. Purdue does not block anything except the windows networking file sharing ports for offcampus for virus and security reasons.

On campus traffic does not count against the bandwidth.

Many purdue students use DC++ to share everything they have with only other purdue students. So there is a lot to download that does not count against your bandwidth.

I think Purdue has the best system that takes care of most users and prevents crazy abuse from people trying to download 20gb every day.

The average user uses under 100mb a day anyways.
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Tom
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Wheaton, IL

reply to z9_87
said by z9_87 See Profile :

If what you say is true with the sniffing for torrent files, I can think of tons of legal torrents and plenty of reasons to be using bittorent other than for illegal means. In fact if a site has a torrent and a http download most of the time the torrent will be faster.
I should correct myself: they scan the downloaded torrent files against a list provided by the MPAA and the RIAA to make sure they're illegal. Legal torrents are fine.
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z9_87
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reply to Tom
If what you say is true with the sniffing for torrent files, I can think of tons of legal torrents and plenty of reasons to be using bittorent other than for illegal means. In fact if a site has a torrent and a http download most of the time the torrent will be faster.
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Tom
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Wheaton, IL

reply to snipper_cr
Another option for UIUC (one of four I use to do roughly 5 or 6 GB a day without messing with MAC addresses): if you have a laptop, go to one of the wireless access points on campus (they're everywhere) and connect via the campus VPN. None of them are subject to the 750MB/day limit (and some VPN addresses download 1 or 2 GB an hour, so they're less likely to notice spikes), and traffic is encrypted across most of the campus network (I'm not sure if the VPN sits past the traffic shaping hardware or not).

Also, the only way they catch you torrenting is sniffing traffic for .torrent files downloaded via HTTP. If you can get them another way, you're good to go.
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z9_87
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reply to snipper_cr
figure out how slow you need to limit your download to and set that up so you dont go over the 750. Also you gan easily get away with about 3 different mac adresses per day
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snipper_cr

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reply to z9_87
I have no particular use to use a router, just as long as I can use a switch (and not a hub) to connect my computers, alls good. Traffic shapping? Well not much you can download torrent wise with only 750 up/down (which means you can only download a 375 meg file if you want to 1:1 it and not get banned from the tracker). Encryption works though for traffic shapping? Good to know.
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z9_87
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reply to Joony
I'd bet he did use DD-WRT, notice the 54G'L' model.

But aside from that, I had a router behind the switch all last year and had no problems. Didn't mess with anything.

Also, uiuc, uses packet shaping to slow down your torrents and other common p2p protocols. Fortunately it doesn't mess with dc++ and encryption also solves this problem.
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Joony

join:2001-12-08
Skokie, IL
reply to snipper_cr
I wonder if you can get Insight Cable Internet through the dorms, since you can apparently order additional TV services...

snipper, Did your friend use DD-WRT to increase the TTL?


snipper_cr

join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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reply to snipper_cr
Another of my friends down at UofI had a very interesting story! So, routers are not allowed in the dorm rooms (not entirely sure why) but hubs and switches are so you can have multiple computers connected (great for seti farms).

Anyways, by putting a router in, they detect it and block internet to your room till you remove it. How do they detect it? A router increases TTL by 1 so they check for odd number of TTL. What my friend did, was use the WRT54GL router and put a different firmware on it and had it increase the TTL by one so the router actually increased the TTL by 2 so it was back to an even number... no problems all semester! Pure h@x skillz n00b :-P
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devicenull
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join:2002-12-01
Clifton, NJ

reply to snipper_cr
Well, at my school all outside P2P is "blocked", which basically means the major trackers are blocked.

The thing is, we have an internal p2p network.. and once you have experienced downloads via a 100mb lan, you don't ever want to go outside the network

So I would actually prefer all outside stuff blocked.. it was the STUDENTS decision to do this a couple of years ago.


fegul
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join:2004-08-23
united state

reply to snipper_cr
At Ithaca College, they don't monitor your connection or block any ports. You do have to pay for the speed tier you want though and the highest I saw was 3 Mbps
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone

join:2002-10-02
PwnZone

reply to snipper_cr
the easiest way to bypass content protection would be to have a server on the outside you can use as an intermediary.

theres threads about this every year in this forum. basically if your not willing to fork up any money, you have very few options.
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