BertDude
join:2006-11-16
| FIOS and the removal of your copper
Has anyone challenged Verizon on the removal of the copper running to your home when fiber is installed?
I see no reason why you should allow Verizon the means of cutting you off from going back to a different provider.
BTW.. In the New York area, Verizon removes the copper going to your house when it installs your phone over fibre.. Is this happening only in NY???
Feedback please.... |
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SD6
join:2005-03-26
| I indicated to the installer that I would not let him remove copper and would even do w/o FIOS if need be. That was one year ago. It went very smoothly and I now have data-only FIOS, and voice on POTS. Others in NY have reported similar success. I tried to arrange it with the people who take my FIOS order, but I had to have the installer straighten it out which he nicely did.
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BertDude
join:2006-11-16
| Yes I too have data only FIOS, but I want to move to phone and FIOS TV since it is now available in my area. Here lies the problem, if I go to phone over FIOS they will want to remove the copper... That would then tie me to Verizon for phone, and if I decide to change it would mean having to rewire the copper... and you know that will cost.
Anyone had any luck with keeping their copper and getting phone over FIOS??? |
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Telcoguru
Premium
join:2005-08-22
Fresh Meadows, NY | If you go to another provider Verizon is required to reinstall a copper drop wire and NID at no cost to the homeowner. |
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BertDude
join:2006-11-16 | Really.. thanks very much for that info. I was not aware that was the case. |
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Lenagainster
join:2005-01-07
Silver Spring, MD | reply to BertDude
At the time my FiOS was installed, I had a landline with a CLEC, not Verizon, so the copper was left alone. (I immediately switched to VOIP and the copper is unused.)
Lena |
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DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX
| reply to BertDude
said by BertDude  :I see no reason why you should allow Verizon the means of cutting you off from going back to a different provider. Because the copper and NID belong to Verizon so you have no right to stop them removing it if they see fit. |
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Drunkula
Premium
join:2000-06-12
Denton, TX | reply to BertDude
They left my copper in place and I did not ask. |
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lonls
Life is good
Premium
join:2006-03-20
Newark, DE | reply to BertDude
They left my copper wiring as well, and I didn't ask them to either. |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | In DE, they are not removing it. |
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malvado6
I pee on Bushes.
join:2003-09-13
00001 | reply to BertDude
It' one thing to have the copper service "left" at the house (physically in place, yet disconnected).
Quite another, if you want to have service placed on it after FioS. |
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MrKenmore
join:2005-06-23
Kings Park, NY | reply to BertDude
I still have my copper drop. But I had no POTS service so there was nothing to swing over. I just as well have it removed. Totally useless for me. |
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jack b
Gone Fishing
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-08
Cape Cod
clubs:
 ·Comcast
| reply to BertDude
They took down my copper after switching to FiOS even though it was only 5 months old
( a big truck took it down once, too  .)
And when FiOS TV comes along, I will have the cable coax drop removed as well.
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BertDude
join:2006-11-16 | reply to BertDude
Thanks for all of your responses, they give me a sense of how the FIOS community feels about having or losing the copper drops to the house.
My guess is that Varizon treats the copper in each state differently.. again thanks... |
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jfoj
join:2005-05-06
Mclean, VA
| reply to BertDude
The copper issue has been all over the mat.
In the beginning, with underground feeds, Verizon was cutting the copper at the soil line. This seems to have stopped for now in my area??
Aerial drops are usually removed. Had a recent install that had 2 lines on different account. Installer almost removed copper aerial drop, then luckily realized there was a 2nd line on a different account.
From what I am hearing lately, Verizon will not allow you to keep your POTS on copper unless it is on a different account or a CLEC and you choose not to consolidate.
I guess for the folks that really want to keep the POTS on copper, they need to order FIOS in the wife's or kids name on a different account. It means writing another check, but if this is what you want, I guess it may work??
jfoj |
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JohnA
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA |
VA is by far the toughest area to keep your copper. |
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DufiefData
join:2006-06-13
Gaithersburg, MD
| reply to jfoj
It seems logical to assume that one day Verizon is just going to cut all the copper on its network--after all the main point of FIOS seems to be (in addition to new network services) to cut down majorly on maintenance expenses.
In any event, the copper will oxidize at some point and Verizon probably doesn't want to be standing around to maintain copper plant for the next 75 years waiting for the last line to go. |
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | I think that's a safe assumption too - out with the copper, in with the glass.
But it won't stop me from clinging to my copper line for a long as I possibly can. |
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BertDude
join:2006-11-16
| reply to BertDude
Just for the record, my initial question was not about consolidating the phone onto the FIOS... but being able to move to another provider (if necessary down the road) after Verizon cuts the copper out. My issue was Varizon making it difficult to migrate to another provider after going to FIOS. |
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mswann
join:2006-07-08
Rancho Cucamonga, CA | reply to BertDude
I got my fiber on 10/17. Two days before a couple of vz guys came out and dug a new trench for the fiber. It may me on an as needed basis. |
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