tmangani
join:2005-10-26
Scarborough, ON
| Fios vs. DOCSIS
The Concorde was the fastest passenger aircraft, but they could not make it work on a mass scale. A Mac was more powerful than a PC but could not get more than 10% market share.
History has always shown that it's not always the best, fastest or newest technology that wins. The market will always decide. |
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cbrain
join:2000-05-21
Silver Spring, MD | I already have fiber. Why are you bothering me with this dribble?  |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
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said by tmangani  :The Concorde was the fastest passenger aircraft, but they could not make it work on a mass scale. A Mac was more powerful than a PC but could not get more than 10% market share. History has always shown that it's not always the best, fastest or newest technology that wins. The market will always decide. Definitely a drawback to a market driven economy... People buy cheap crap, not quality.
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UncleDirtNap
join:2006-08-26
Pittsburgh, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Problem here, from a current FIOS and former Cable customer, the fiber is costing less, a lot, and the service blows away the cable option.
With several times the bandwidth of cable, especially on the upstream, and TV about to be offered at a fraction of what Comcrap was charging - the cheap stuff is the superior tech and the crap is costing more.
With TV, Internet and phone costing about 65% of Comcast's next closest offering which fails to make the performance grade, cable has zero chance of ever getting me back as a customer. |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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said by bmn :Definitely a drawback to a market driven economy... People buy cheap crap, not quality.
That's just a way of saying you have a different idea of what value for the dollar is.
The Mac with equivalent hardware was "more powerful" according to its fans - but that was based on testing with things it was good at, like Photoshop. On other tasks the PC made better scores. But the masses didn't decide based on these considerations alone - other factors have been more important, such as generic vs. proprietary hardware, software compatibility, GUI familiarity and style, and network effects.
The Concorde if I'm not mistaken had its use restrained by factors other than "quality" - such as imposing special requirements on airports, and sonic boom issues. Likewise Beta tapes were better in the narrow dimension of picture quality, but consumers also looked at cassette size, recording time, price, and other factors.
In the case of cable vs. fiber, bandwidth is what consumers look at and it is also where fiber beats cable. Because the virtues of the product coincide with consumer preferences in this case, it has a good chance of succeeding.
Providers could still shoot themselves in the foot with bad decisions. For example, the policy of ripping out the copper may alienate some potential customers. |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
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said by UncleDirtNap :Problem here, from a current FIOS and former Cable customer, the fiber is costing less, a lot, and the service blows away the cable option. With several times the bandwidth of cable, especially on the upstream, and TV about to be offered at a fraction of what Comcrap was charging - the cheap stuff is the superior tech and the crap is costing more. With TV, Internet and phone costing about 65% of Comcast's next closest offering which fails to make the performance grade, cable has zero chance of ever getting me back as a customer. 65%? got a link? Is that for Promo vs Promo, or normal price vs. normal price? Do you really think Verizon will be your saviour for long? They are already increasing prices. Read the first page.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| said by LeftOfSanity :said by UncleDirtNap :Problem here, from a current FIOS and former Cable customer, the fiber is costing less, a lot, and the service blows away the cable option. With several times the bandwidth of cable, especially on the upstream, and TV about to be offered at a fraction of what Comcrap was charging - the cheap stuff is the superior tech and the crap is costing more. With TV, Internet and phone costing about 65% of Comcast's next closest offering which fails to make the performance grade, cable has zero chance of ever getting me back as a customer. 65%? got a link? Is that for Promo vs Promo, or normal price vs. normal price? Do you really think Verizon will be your saviour for long? They are already increasing prices. Read the first page. Yeah and we all no cable doesn't ever jack rates. Even if verizon saves me $5 a month I will gladly swap.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to bmn
said by bmn :said by tmangani :The Concorde was the fastest passenger aircraft, but they could not make it work on a mass scale. A Mac was more powerful than a PC but could not get more than 10% market share. History has always shown that it's not always the best, fastest or newest technology that wins. The market will always decide. Definitely a drawback to a market driven economy... People buy cheap crap, not quality. Quality has to be OFFERED before it can be bought.
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | reply to tmangani
Very good point..."good form" |
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Endgame
Your member at work
Premium
join:2005-07-07
USA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to bmn
said by bmn :said by tmangani :The Concorde was the fastest passenger aircraft, but they could not make it work on a mass scale. A Mac was more powerful than a PC but could not get more than 10% market share. History has always shown that it's not always the best, fastest or newest technology that wins. The market will always decide. Definitely a drawback to a market driven economy... People buy cheap crap, not quality. That is because it is very hard to make a lot of money in this unfair and overpopulated world!
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to bmn
said by bmn :said by tmangani :The Concorde was the fastest passenger aircraft, but they could not make it work on a mass scale. A Mac was more powerful than a PC but could not get more than 10% market share. History has always shown that it's not always the best, fastest or newest technology that wins. The market will always decide. Definitely a drawback to a market driven economy... People buy cheap crap, not quality. Agreed, look at walmart and 99 cent stores. |
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SSidlov
Other Things On My Mind
Premium
join:2000-03-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
·Optimum Online
 ·Cingular Wireless
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If you can't get it, it doesn't matter what the tech is.....
while FIOS may be better Tech, it frankly doesn't matter if they won't deploy it your neighborhood. I live surrounded by FIOS listed or soon-to-be-activated communities by Verizon. My town with it's lower income levels, is not scheduled until sometime in 2009, according to some linesmen I've spoken with, even though the fiber cables for OTHER towns is already running through it. If you can't get it, it frankly doesn't matter. I'll suffer with my 15/2mb from CV for $45. For $9/mo more I can get 30/2 host my own mail and website. |
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platinumsun
Photographer For Life
join:2003-08-29
Houston, TX | reply to cbrain
Re: Fios vs. DOCSIS
One day I'll be in the same boat, but in ATT country I have to wait it out |
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Timmn
join:2000-04-23
Tinley Park, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
| reply to bmn
I don't remember the exact figures, but a ticket to France on a Concorde was like three times the ticket price on a regular commercial aircraft.
If you look at the price differential between a Mac and a PC, Macs have always been more expensive, the only thing that held back Apple from gaining market share was price.
People don't always buy "cheap crap", most of them will buy a good quality product at a low price. |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| said by Timmn :If you look at the price differential between a Mac and a PC, Macs have always been more expensive, the only thing that held back Apple from gaining market share was price. That's been tossed around so many times without any evidence to back it up its ridiculous. The difference in architecture, the proprietary (closed-source) OS, etc. were greater factors in keeping them from gaining market share. With the switch to Intel and OS X, an open source OS, their market share has risen while still costing more than the average PC.
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