newtodsl123
join:2005-01-08
Sterling Heights, MI
| Comcast disconnects for using P2P Comcast has over the past 2 days has implemented a system to disconnect the cable connection if using P2P in my area.
I did some change in settings (upload & download rate, connecting cable modem directly to computer) but I have confirmed that Comcast DOES disconnect. The cable modem lights are blinking as though it is working but traffic to and from internet does not get through.
I had to reboot the cable modem, D Link VOIP Accelerator (DI-102), Dlink wireless modem, Sunrocket Gizmo to get it going again.
Apparently all ISPs are going to put the clause in the agreement for "excessive use". Such a clause met with some difficulty in France but looks like US has started already implementing it. | |
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Big_D
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Augusta, GA | Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P Sorry, gotta call on this one.
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join:2005-01-07
Buffalo Grove, IL | Big_D,
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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| You have some indeterminate cable modem, and a wireless modem? And a Sunrocket "Gizmo"? The only item you gave a specific identity to was the D-Link DI-102. But no information on how it all interconnected, or even which P2P application you are using.
You need to learn how to properly formulate a problem statement, including properly identifying the models of the equipment, and how it is interconnected.
Or did you just mean for this to be a rant?
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| peerimpact
join:2005-11-07
Londonderry, VT
1 edit | Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P Plug straight into the cable modem and see if your connection drops .
Many routers choke on too many connections being open .
Can you tell us what p2p client you are using?
If it is using protocol encryption?
What ports you have open for the p2p client?
Do you use uPNP with the p2p client ?
ISPs tend not block any p2p traffic but they might shape the traffic if they identify specific p2p traffic on the network. | |
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Quaoar
join:2004-08-11
Fort Collins, CO | Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P How do you open " too many connections on your router "?
Frankly, I believe you are FOS, blaming Comcast for your own inadequacies in setting up your P2P service.
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KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
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join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
 ·Comcast
| Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P I've been using Comcast and P2P for over 3 years and have never had any disconnects due to them.
Yes, I've overloaded many SOHO routers with too much traffic; but I solved that problem by building linux gateway boxes and by purchasing (and implementing) enterprise cisco routers and switches.
[alright, the switches are not exacly today's models, but I did not shell out thousands of $ for them either  ] | |
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Morty
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join:2004-09-18
| said by Quaoar  :How do you open " too many connections on your router "? Frankly, I believe you are FOS, blaming Comcast for your own inadequacies in setting up your P2P service. Q Simple, the mass amount of traffic that bittorent uses uses up either the routers cpu or memory... Causes it to lag out or reset, it can be avoided by lowering the max number of connections/storms in bittorent. | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P said by Morty :said by Quaoar :How do you open " too many connections on your router "? Frankly, I believe you are FOS, blaming Comcast for your own inadequacies in setting up your P2P service. Q Simple, the mass amount of traffic that bittorent uses uses up either the routers cpu or memory... Causes it to lag out or reset, it can be avoided by lowering the max number of connections/storms in bittorent. I agree, I would also suggest he takes a look a windows. Windows xp sp2 introduced a 10 half open connections limit. This can some times be the issue especially if the client is set up wrong.
It can be can sometimes be related to how many people are on the torrent, and if its using the public dht network, they can flood you off the swarm if you have weak equipment.
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P *Puts on tin foil hat*
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crypto7ogic
join:2001-08-29
Dayton, OH
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| said by peerimpact :... If it is using protocol encryption? ... ISPs tend not block any p2p traffic but they might shape the traffic if they identify specific p2p traffic on the network. Exactly... and if it's really encrypted (end-to-end) the ISP would not even know that it is p2p traffic, as opposed to HTTPS, IPSec, SSL, etc.
newtodsl123 try using Azureus (»azureus.sourceforge.net/) and turning RC4 encryption on (Options -> Connection -> Transport Encryption). They even have an "Avoid Traffic Shaping" wiki: »www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Av···_shaping
And finally see their recommended settings -- a really helpful table: »www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Good_settings | |
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freebird317
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join:2004-02-23
Portland, OR
·Comcast
1 edit | said by NormanS :Or did you just mean for this to be a rant? By the reading it looks like a rant.
said by newtodsl123 :
but I have confirmed that Comcast DOES disconnect
How?
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
1 edit | said by NormanS :You have some indeterminate cable modem, and a wireless modem? And a Sunrocket "Gizmo"? The only item you gave a specific identity to was the D-Link DI-102. But no information on how it all interconnected, or even which P2P application you are using. You need to learn how to properly formulate a problem statement, including properly identifying the models of the equipment, and how it is interconnected. Or did you just mean for this to be a rant? »www.sunrocket.com/support/equipment/gizmo/
It's called a damn Gizmo.
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA | Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P It wasn't a flame. The post was so riddled with incomplete descriptions that I couldn't tell what it was about.
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newtodsl123
join:2005-01-08
Sterling Heights, MI
2 edits | I hope this is BS myself !! Unfortunately it is not !!
I have been using P2P for about 3 months now and have not had a single issue.
My connection in the order:
Cable Modem - Dlink DCM 202
DLink VOIP Accelerator - Dlink DI 102
Wireless Router - Dlink WBR 1310
Behind the router is the Computer (wired) and SunRocket Gizmo.
Using BitComet 0.70. No PeerGuardian.
I am going to try to directly connect the computer to the cable modem and try it again. I will post the results.
Praying that it will work and it was my router that could not handle so many connections. Is there a paramter to tweak for the router?
I am sorry about the previous abrupt post. I was frustrated and pissed and given wrong information !!
The settings on the Wireless Router are:
Enable uPnP - Yes
Enable Wan Ping Respond - Yes
Enable Gaming Mode - Yes
Enable Multicast Streams - Yes
Firmware 1.01 - Dec 2005 | |
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| cwagner17
join:2003-03-13
Hatfield, PA
3 edits | Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P Check your router log. Every D-link router I have owned would reboot for no reason. The WBR-1310 is essentially a Di-524 repackaged in a new case. This could be the disconnects you are experiencing. Best test is to bypass the router and see what happens.
Also check this thread out:
»DI-524 rev.D. Upgrade choice: DI-624 rev.D or WBR-1310 ? | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03
·CableOne
| Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P said by cwagner17 :Every D-link router I have owned would reboot for no reason. Me too. I have an el-cheapo Belkin wireless router from Wal-Mart. Works 100x better than any D-Link.
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join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P said by PolarBear :said by cwagner17 :Every D-link router I have owned would reboot for no reason. Me too. I have an el-cheapo Belkin wireless router from Wal-Mart. Works 100x better than any D-Link. My D-Link DI-704 was rock solid. It ended up being replaced by a wireless router. Every Belkin router (or wifi card) I've tried has been nothing but trouble. (But I agree, newer DLINk routers have cause me nothing but trouble)
I've had the same basic problem as the OP with Road Runner lately, only it's the cable modem that reboots every few minutes when running Azureus. Haven't had much time to troubleshoot and since my DSL has sort of taken over as my primary connection, it hasn't been that big a deal. | |
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djdanska
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join:2001-04-21
Glen Ellyn, IL
clubs: | Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P my belkin pre-n does suck at p2p. i ended up flashing it to the linksys firmware. as long as i don't open too many connections, it works much better.
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| NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by newtodsl123 :Is there a paramter to tweak for the router? The settings on the Wireless Router are: Enable uPnP - Yes Enable Wan Ping Respond - Yes Enable Gaming Mode - Yes Enable Multicast Streams - Yes Firmware 1.01 - Dec 2005 I don't know about your router. No setting in mine. I tweak the client. Using BitTornado, and limiting peer connections to just 60. Only run on download at any given time. I'd halve the peer connections for two downloads; but I have never really had to run more than one at a time.
With some routers, or modems (older models), the peer connections may need to be reduced; or even the upload BW choked at the client.
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join:2006-10-15
Havertown, PA
2 edits | quote:
I hope this is BS myself !! Unfortunately it is not !!
don't assume.
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Using BitComet 0.70.
welcome to unfinished, mediocre beta software.
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The settings on the Wireless Router are:
Enable uPnP - Yes
Enable Wan Ping Respond - Yes
Enable Gaming Mode - Yes
Enable Multicast Streams - Yes
Firmware 1.01 - Dec 2005
all that this tells us, is that you need to update your firmware.
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I have been using P2P for about 3 months now and have not had a single issue.
well, if that is so, then don't assume and try to analyze a situation such as stating something like this...
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Comcast has over the past 2 days has implemented a system to disconnect the cable connection if using P2P in my area.
I did some change in settings (upload & download rate, connecting cable modem directly to computer) but I have confirmed that Comcast DOES disconnect. The cable modem lights are blinking as though it is working but traffic to and from internet does not get through.
...without having any experience in the P2P background.
PS - isp's are THROTTLING bandwidth on common P2P ports. not terminating your connection.
most likely, it sounds like you are having some remote routing issues. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03
·CableOne
| Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P said by grazed :quote:
Using BitComet 0.70.
welcome to unfinished, mediocre beta software.
Want a real bittorrent client? Use Azureus.
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robct
rob
join:2004-04-09
Waterbury, CT | same thing happening to me. every morning i wake up now with internet not working - have to restart modem for it to work again. | |
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liew
@com.sg | what technology they are using?
I just tried a online p2p TV software - TVants, which can stream and watch online TV channels. Mainly chinese channels. But I do see some channels likes ESPN..... | |
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| ditka_b
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join:2001-10-05
Barrington, IL | Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P Well you should be getting that letter from the RIAA AND MPAA any day congrats:) | |
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lightzout
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join:2005-07-29
San Anselmo, CA
| The d-link "disconnect" problem for this modem was well known a few years ago in gaming circles as it was blamed for many unhappy Battlefield and World of Warcraft players as well as p2p users. The problem appeared to be related a very fast power cycle at random times. It would be very hard to see unless you are logging events. I called dlink and they sent me a new one without any debate giving me the impression they were getting a lot of similar calls. I have since used a belkin router and now an apple without any "disconnects" whatsoever. Furthermore, if Comcast were doing such things I think the smarty pants net guys would know by now. The OP is paranoid. Maybe he doesn't want to get busted for downloading "Bosom Buddies" re-runs? | |
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AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P said by priller :said by newtodsl123 :I had to reboot the cable modem, D Link VOIP Accelerator (DI-102), Dlink wireless modem, Sunrocket Gizmo to get it going again. Actually, this tells you that it's almost certainly a problem on your end. Him power cycling his equipment causes the Comcast's P2PNukeilator3000 program (running at the Comcast command bunker in Cheyenne Mountain) to reset! Yeah, that's what is going on... 
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
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| I also call BS. I have run p2p when on Comcast (before
we were switched over to TWC/RoadRunner), and I never
got disconnected while using p2p, nor did I have my
traffic throttled.
BT is one of more connection-intensive p2p apps out
there, and can easily overload network equipment, which
could make it look like they were disconnecting you.
But Comcast will pass on DMCA notices that they
receive from copyright holders, so watch what you
share - and BT is currently the main network that
their enforcers are trolling through looking for
infringement.
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN | A frozen D-link because of p2p or gaming is not uncommon.
I had to try three routers before landing on one that wouldn't choke. I have yet to hear of comcast monitoring the traffic on their network in any way that affects the end user. | |
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
·Hawaiian Telcom
| Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P said by Fluker :A frozen D-link because of p2p or gaming is not uncommon. ... Heat buildup is often the problem... the dlinks I've used all seem to be somewhat poorly ventilated. They get wonky when hot... so, taking steps to keep them cool goes a long way.
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BIGMIKE
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FiL
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join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD
| never in my downloading life have I EVER hit my lines potential, let alone say 2 megs. 6 meg connection here.
I gaurantee they are throttling p2p apps. Soon as I go over to my brothers house, start up Azureus, VERIZON's speeds climb to 500kb- 2 megs during DL's. Mine on the other hand at home barely hit 100kb.
No spyware/malware BS. My shits Fort Knox, nothings using my connection wihtout my OK (you get the drift).
Ive been experiencing this for about 6 months. | |
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Morty
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join:2004-09-18
| Re: Comcast disconnects for using P2P said by FiL :never in my downloading life have I EVER hit my lines potential, let alone say 2 megs. 6 meg connection here. I gaurantee they are throttling p2p apps. Soon as I go over to my brothers house, start up Azureus, VERIZON's speeds climb to 500kb- 2 megs during DL's. Mine on the other hand at home barely hit 100kb. No spyware/malware BS. My shits Fort Knox, nothings using my connection wihtout my OK (you get the drift). Ive been experiencing this for about 6 months. It's not the size (IE your full line) it's the amount of traffic that overwhelms the router. | |
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newtodsl123
join:2005-01-08
Sterling Heights, MI
1 edit | Thanks crypto7ogic.
I am a newbie to the p2p area.
I am trying azureus now with the recommended settings (a little less actually to play it safe) and I am getting pretty good download speeds of about 250 kb/s without the router crashing.
Thanks everybody for your replies, this is a very helpful forum. Looks like a lot of very knowledgeable people are around. | |
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