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Re: Latest AV results from av-test.org

said by TAP See Profile :

All freebies, AVG, AntiVir, avast! are always doing a very good results, they beat many (some beats all) well-known paid AV.

Too bad and always bad for CA eTrust and ClamAV, where are their substantial improvements?
ClamAV is a freeware project still in beta so it can be excused. CA eTrust, however is a commercial product and can't be cut the same amount of slack.
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The 1st post in this thread quotes AV-Test's proponents as follows: "Beside over 83.000 worms the parasit collection consisted of more than 86,000 Bots, 218,000 Trojan horses and 79,000 Backdoors." Oddly enough, there is no mention of viruses whatsoever. Or did something get lost in translation?

It seems to me that the AV programs were tested against a test-bed of malware that usually is viewed as the province of AntiTrojan programs moreso than AntiVirus programs.

Could this be the reason why WebWasher did so well, I wonder?

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said by bellgamin See Profile :

Could this be the reason why WebWasher did so well, I wonder?
It is because WebWasher uses AntiVir engine in this test, as someone told you in the previous post.

Now why does WebWasher score higher than AntiVir? One reason I could think of is "Webwasher will report every UPX packed DLL as suspicious". Since this testbed only contains malware (no test about the accuracy of the scan result), Webwasher can detect every such malware while AntiVir can't. This may explain the discrepancy.

By the way, people should take the accuracy of the scan result into account. Theoretically an antivirus which flag everything as malicious can score 100% in this test, but this antivirus is totally useless in reality. Thus products with high number of false-positive should be used with care (so as to avoid deleting any innocent files). Here are the products with considerably more false positives:
- Dr.Web
- Fortinet
- VBA32

[Source: av-comparatives.org, research in VirusTotal and Jotti VirusScan]

Also note that some unheard AV products may be simply the clones of other well-known AVs. They either use one or multiple scan engines from other well-known AV (eg AVK, F-secure, TrustPort, Webwasher).
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said by Wai_Wai See Profile :

said by bellgamin See Profile :

Could this be the reason why WebWasher did so well, I wonder?
It is because WebWasher uses AntiVir engine in this test, as someone told you in the previous post.

Now why does WebWasher score higher than AntiVir? One reason I could think of is "Webwasher will report every UPX packed DLL as suspicious". Since this testbed only contains malware (no test about the accuracy of the scan result), Webwasher can detect every such malware while AntiVir can't. This may explain the discrepancy.

lol. Webwasher uses two engines, Antivir and their own private one. That's why they scored a touch better.
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