RustyTheDog
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Re: $15,000 to wire a 23 floor office building
said by morbo  :Periodicially, Charter offers to wire my work building for about $15,000. The management company always throws the option to tenants to have the cost split among everyone, but it never is approved. There is just something wrong about PAYING the cable company to wire your space so that you can then PAY them for service. It the cable company wants my business, they will wire the building--NOT ask me to do it for them. But you're comparing getting a wire to the door of your building to wiring the entire building, right? I can't imagine there is a cable company out there that would wire your entire building for free. Although I do agree that paying the cable company for the work seems a bit redundant. Why don't you see if a local electrician or someone else would be interested. The cable company doesn't have to do it. |
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c0de
join:2004-10-14
Richmond, VA | I was about to say the same thing, I am sure that you could find an electrician to do it for you for less. |
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GT
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Well you pay the electrician to wire your house, then you pay the electric company to give you the power. same thing with cable companies. you pay them to do the wiring then they send the juice down the line for your services. |
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John Galt
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said by c0de :I was about to say the same thing, I am sure that you could find an electrician to do it for you for less. Obviously you don't know much about it...
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John Galt
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said by GT :
Well you pay the electrician to wire your house, then you pay the electric company to give you the power. same thing with cable companies. you pay them to do the wiring then they send the juice down the line for your services.
Oh noes...!!
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zentec
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Monroe, MI | reply to John Galt
Given the efficiencies of an electrician over the cable-jockeys that Charter employs, I'd say a three man crew of good electricians would end up being cheaper. |
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John Galt
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| said by zentec :Given the efficiencies of an electrician over the cable-jockeys that Charter employs, I'd say a three man crew of good electricians would end up being cheaper. That said...!
(I have done both types of work so I know what is involved from both points-of-view...)
Do the math...$15K for 23 floors? That is only $652.17 per floor, labor and materials. There is much more involved than just "the wire" and the labor of the guys running the cable.
It just doesn't pencil out for Sparky to do it. It would for Charter since they will be taking a long-term position...rather than Sparky who wants to get paid NOW!!
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
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| I think there are 2 distinct point be said that are being mixed.
1. Service to the property line.
2. service with in the property line.
Service to the property should fall on the provider. To be fair, if the property is in the middle of nowhere with absolutely no way of spreading the cost to other owners which basically ends up being a dedicated circuit.....but most of these posts refer to less than several hundred yards to service their property.
Service with in the property line should fall on the owner unless there is an agreement of "right of way." |
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John Galt
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| said by averagedude :Service with in the property line should fall on the owner unless there is an agreement of "right of way." Cable companies will do premise wiring in large buildings...they just want to get paid for it up front.
Hence the $15,000 quote...
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SolarPup
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not really, because then you have to have the cable co come in and replace all the crappy fittings that the electricians put on so your service works correctly.. overall it's better to have them do it right in the first place.. you need that fast internet? you'll pay an arm and a leg to get the service to the computer, then over monthly the business you do over that makes it back, as long as it's done right the first time, and works 99% of the time.
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battleop
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We do it all the time. There are office buildings in our area where you can't get DSL and Comcast wants to charge the landlords thousands to bring in cable. The land lords just want some broadband in their buildings to keep tenants from moving to places where they can get cable or dsl.
So what we do is come in with some T1s multi linked, install a switch I can create some vLans in and drop ethernet to the tenants. Most of the time comcast wants 10 to 20k to wire out the buildings with no revenue share to the land lord. We tell the land lord we bare the expense and they are our customers. Landlords are happy to do this, all they want is broadband for their tenants. |
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