BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Costs too much for people to care.
$600 for the dish and $60 a month for 700 kbps is way to much caps or no caps. Unitl they realize that satelite will never take off. Their only customers are people in the boonies and they are POOR. That's why they live in the boonies. A dozen years ago DirectTV dishes were $750 now they are less than $100 yet somehow the price of satelite internet dishes haven't fallen one iota in the last 6 years. HDTVs and every other bit of newer technology has FALLEN significantly over that time, but not the satelite dishes. Hmmmmmmm.
If they would smart they would eat the cost of the dishes just to get customers and only charge $100 or less. Give the customers a reduced rate for 6 months and they'd make much more money. People on dial-up mostly haven't used broadband so they don't know how much better it is. Get them used to using broadband FIRST then charge more for it when they can't live without it. That's how drug dealers do it. Get them addicted FIRST. You think crack would have been as big at it's gotten if they start off charging $500 a rock? |
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clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI
| You obviously didn't read the FAP link. A guy who is living off-grid from photovoltaics isn't what I'd consider "poor".
It's expensive, and I just don't see the price of it dropping much below $50 per month. But if you want to be away from people, it's the price you pay for something other than dial-up. If they're poor, as you stated in your post, then they can't afford broadband in any form. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by clickie  :It's expensive, and I just don't see the price of it dropping much below $50 per month. But if you want to be away from people, it's the price you pay for something other than dial-up. If they're poor, as you stated in your post, then they can't afford broadband in any form. Not true. You can get 1.5 Mbps for Bellsouth for $33 a month almost half of the cost of this crap in which you get half the speed. Just because one can't afford $60 doesn't mean they can't afford $33. Also it's the value thing. twice as much for half the speed isn't good value. Hell I pay $47 a month for 6 Mbps fom BS. Satelite is a rip off PERIOD. Would DirectTV have as many customers if they cahrge $100 a month for the same programming as the local cable guys do for $50? of course not.
As far as "They choose to live out in the boonies for they deserve to have crappy ISPs" So kids that live out in the boonies don't desever and education. People that live out in the booies don't deserve electricity and running water or phone service because they CHOOSE to live there?
And before you point out those are necessitites and broadband isn't. Well phones used to be considered a LUXURY. And my great grandaprents lived the vast majority of their lives just fine without electricity and running water. And some of them lived into their 90's. So how necessary is it?
Hell my son is amazed that until I was 13 I didn't have cable and maybe had only 8 channels to watch and that I was 11 before video game system where available for homes. His whole life there has been an internet the concept of a world without it is foreign to kids his age. So this concept of broadband being a luxury will fade over time and quicker than you think. Plenty of people including myself look at people with dial-up as we would look at Amish people. Totally amazed at how they get by. And you're talking to someone who didn't get on the internet until he was 31. There are already things in school that require kids to have internet access. So kids without it are at an educational disadvantage and that will only get worse over time. So how is something that is REQUIRED by the PUBLIC schools that are funded by TAXPAYER $$$$ considered a LUXURY? |
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rprather12
join:2005-03-12
Modesto, CA | reply to BF69
Wow! Olympic class conclusion jumping!
There are hundreds of thousands if not millions or people that live in the "Boonies" that are a long way from being "poor"!
Satellite may be the answer for a lot of them. |
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Brigrat
join:2003-09-01
Lovington, NM | reply to BF69
The Dish and installation was $199, and the service is around $60, you were only off by $400... |
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Brigrat
join:2003-09-01
Lovington, NM
| reply to rprather12
I am one of them...I live just outside of a small town in rural SE New Mexico...I work in the Nuclear Industry, and since we are just building the facility, the infrastructure hasn't caught up with us yet...Money isn't an issue (at least in terms of internet), but options are...my phone line is so bad, Dial-up barely works. Satellite Internet was the ONLY option for me. I hardly live in the Boonies though, I am ust 5 minutes from town. |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | reply to BF69
i believe their website says 250 or so for the dish with free installation |
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aeblank
join:2004-09-07
Cadillac, MI
| reply to BF69
Dangit, I just found out that since I can't get DSL, I'm poor.
I *hate* being poor.
Silly me, not having to fence in my dog or have shades on my windows.
ISDN is as good as it gets. Stupid SBC/AT&T and Charter not pushing their network out. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| reply to BF69
said by BF69 :Their only customers are people in the boonies and they are POOR. Maybe in Tennessee. 'not at all true on the East and West coasts. Or in Colorado, Wyoming, Texas, etc., for that matter. |
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MTC_Wes
join:2004-04-22
Fergus, ON
| reply to BF69
When satellite internet (satellite return) first came out 6+ years ago it was $1299 for Hardware and $400 for install.. so $1700 hardware PLUS $100+ month for service.
No adays they are giving away the hardware for $400 or less, $100 for install and $55 a month.. It seems to me that the overall price of satellite internet has come down significantly. |
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rprather12
join:2005-03-12
Modesto, CA | reply to PDXPLT
Add many of the very expensive houses located in the Santa Cruz mountains with a view of Silicon Valley to your list.
Many of those people own major tech businesses in Silicon Valley and have just recently gotten access to broadband. |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03
 ·CableOne
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It's amazing how two people can look at the same webpage and pull two different numbers.
Wild blue Plans and Pricing
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"I invented it, Bill made it famous." --David Bradley, the inventor of Ctrl+Alt+Del. |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | I posted what i remembered from their site. It may have been a while ago. Point taken amount corrected to $199. |
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imanogre
join:2005-11-29
Mcdonough, GA
| reply to PolarBear
This is not the same deal being offered everywhere. Equipment is still 299.00 where I live. 
I was just about to pull the trigger on this deal as a Xmas gift to myself. Oh well, maybe next year. |
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opus74
Deep Thought
Premium
join:2002-03-04
Coello, IL
clubs:
 ·WildBlue
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Poor? Poor! .....
Looks like your hometown is a thriving urban metropolis...
Camden, TN
Population (year 2000): 3,828.
Estimated population in July 2005: 3,736 (-2.4% change)
Males: 1,723 (45.0%), Females: 2,105 (55.0%)
Median resident age: 43.9 years
Median household income: $26,348
Not everyone in the country is poor. I actually like it here and I'll compare W-2s and lifestyle with the urbans any day.
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Lordy, I have loved some ladies and I have loved Jim Beam and they both tried to kill me in 1973. |
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Mac Bridger
Beat It Again Bill
Premium
join:2001-01-11
Smithton, PA
clubs: | reply to rprather12
Re: Costs too much for people to care.
I live less than 30 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh. WildBlue is my only broadband option. I hardly consider that "the boonies". |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by opus74 :Poor? Poor! ..... Looks like your hometown is a thriving urban metropolis... Camden, TN
Population (year 2000): 3,828.
Estimated population in July 2005: 3,736 (-2.4% change)
Males: 1,723 (45.0%), Females: 2,105 (55.0%)
Median resident age: 43.9 years
Median household income: $26,348Not everyone in the country is poor. I actually like it here and I'll compare W-2s and lifestyle with the urbans any day. First of all I wasn't insulting you so get off of it. I was making a point. A pro "satelite companies needs to lower prices" points. Sorry you think you should be paying MORE. Jeez talk about something going completely over your head. I never said where I lived was urban or a metropolis or better or anything. In fact when I said boonies I include my local area. So go ahead and insult Camden I do every fricken day. It sucks, so you aren't hurting my feelings. I'm not from here. Anyways, learn to understand CONTEXT.
Camden isn't my hometown. I just live her right now so no need to even bring it up. If you wish to bring up my "hometown" data try using Sarasota, Florida. How's that compare? |
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