DrDemento
join:2005-07-25
Brick, NJ | reply to melissatrv
Re: Microsoft Security Bulletin(s) for 12/12/2006
For those who want their computer clock updated automatically in 2007 download and install update kb928388 as a suggested software update. Remember the dates for daylight savings time change in 2007. |
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Bondman
join:2001-08-24
Livonia, MI
|  DrDemento:
Thanks for pointing out the kb928388 patch for time. One issue of concern is that there is no patch for Windows 2000 for the time. There are a lot of computers and servers with that OS still out there.
I did install all of the patches on one Windows 2000 test server, a Windows Server 2003 test server and one Windows XP pc. Knock on wood they installed without any issues. There was a new Exchange 2003 patch as well.
Bondman |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI | reply to DrDemento
We don't have daylight savings. What is this time change? Never heard of it. Do I need this software update if Hawaii doesn't observer daylight savings (which all states should stop observing IMO)? |
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jaykaykay
4 Ever Young
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-13
Scottsdale, AZ
 ·Speakeasy
| said by Mele20  :We don't have daylight savings. What is this time change? Never heard of it. Do I need this software update if Hawaii doesn't observer daylight savings (which all states should stop observing IMO)? »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_savings_time |
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La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
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said by Mele20 :We don't have daylight savings. What is this time change? Never heard of it. Do I need this software update if Hawaii doesn't observer daylight savings (which all states should stop observing IMO)? Why does this concern you if you "never heard of it" or don't have DST (which is it?)? Most people like DST as it gives more hours of daylight in the evening. Why would you need this update if Hawaii doesn't participate in DST? 
"...which all states should stop observing IMO"....which is a negative opinion on something that you "never heard of" or doesn't affect you.
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jabarnut
Light Years Away
Premium,MVM
join:2005-01-22
Galaxy M31
| reply to Mele20
This whole 'time' thing has always been a problem for me.
I keep trying to save as much of it as I can, but no matter what I do, I never have any left. 
I'm hoping for a solution some day...only time will tell.
In the mean time, I'll be keeping a close Watch.
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AB
Premium
join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA
| said by jabarnut :. . I keep trying to save as much of it as I can, but no matter what I do, I never have any left. That's because the Gubbermint keeps hording it away, and will make us pay additional tax dollars or something one day to get it back.
Or else they're selling it to Third World countries behind our backs.
And let me tell you something-- they've got a TON of it stashed away!
An hour in the Spring, EVERY YEAR, which they pretend to "give back" in the Fall!
Yeah, right! Who do they think they're kidding??
Ted Stevens has got it all funnelled to Alaska, and hidden deep in some underground igloo.
And Microsoft Corp. is in on the conspiracy, too! You can write that one in stone.
(Just remember-- you heard it here first!)  |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| reply to La Luna
said by La Luna :said by Mele20 :We don't have daylight savings. What is this time change? Never heard of it. Do I need this software update if Hawaii doesn't observer daylight savings (which all states should stop observing IMO)? Why does this concern you if you "never heard of it" or don't have DST (which is it?)? Most people like DST as it gives more hours of daylight in the evening. Why would you need this update if Hawaii doesn't participate in DST? "...which all states should stop observing IMO"....which is a negative opinion on something that you "never heard of" or doesn't affect you. No one answered my question. I didn't especially need a link to an essay about how awful Daylight Savings Time is although that was ok as it is just more ammunition against it ....I already know that medically and otherwise it is a very bad idea. I don't know why anyone would like it. Who wants sunshine at 9PM and darkness at 10PM? That's nuts. I hate it when I go to visit my mother in Arkansas and have to live with light artifically ended in the evening too late and starting funny in the morning. It wasn't like that when I was growing up in Arkansas and we all managed just fine. There is no need to artifically manipulate time twice a year and disrupt circadian rhythms.
I asked what is this time change? And no one told me...that Wiki essay doesn't either ....maybe somewhere in that long article is a reference to what I asked but I didn't see it and Wiki says the article badly needs updating and cleaning up...so I ask again what is this time change this coming year? I have sort of figured out it is going to be longer than in past years? Is that correct? That will be awful for us in Hawaii. Just awful ....we all hate it when you guys go on it and can't wait for you to get off it and if that time is extended...then double UGH.
Plus, what is this Microsoft patch? It is only for those going on this NEW DST? Or what? Why is a patch needed in 2007 that wasn't needed when going on DST on the Mainland in 2006? Remember in Hawaii we don't have a bunch of news articles about DST on the Mainland. We can't even remember when you guys have it and don't...we just hate it and wish it would go away permanently as it is very disruptive of health, circadian rhythms, etc. for those who must endure it and bad for us in Hawaii for any business we have to do with the Mainland because it extends the already significant time difference so that in many instances I cannot call customer service for a business on the East Coast ever during DST because the hours are during my sleep hours and breakfast and I don't do mornings so I am not sufficiently awake to make a business call until after breakfast and by then customer service has closed.
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Bubba
GIT-R-DONE
Premium,MVM
join:2002-08-19
Around, Us
·Comcast
| said by Mele20 :Why is a patch needed in 2007 that wasn't needed when going on DST on the Mainland in 2006? In 2006 Windows knew to adjust the clock for DST on April 2 and October 29, 2006. For 2007 DST is extended 4 weeks and starts March 11 and ends November 4, 2007. The OS will be patched to refleck that change so the clock will be updated properly.
HTH,
Bubba
BTW....you are going to blow a gasket someday Mele if you keep it wound too tight  |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI | Thank you, Bubba. That was what I was trying to find out.
Ugh though that DST has been extended by one month. |
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Bubba
GIT-R-DONE
Premium,MVM
join:2002-08-19
Around, Us
·Comcast
| said by Mele20 :Ugh though that DST has been extended by one month You bet....more daylight for yard work and Golf....regardless what it does to my "circadian rhythms" 
Bubba |
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JTM1051
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-08
Moorpark, CA
| reply to Bubba
said by Bubba :In 2006 Windows knew to adjust the clock for DST on April 2 and October 29, 2006. For 2007 DST is extended 4 weeks and starts March 11 and ends November 4, 2007. The OS will be patched to refleck that change so the clock will be updated properly. HTH, Bubba The changes of when DST starts and ends part of the Energy Policy Act of 2005.
BTW....you are going to blow a gasket someday Mele if you keep it wound too tight |
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AB
Premium
join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA
| reply to Bubba
said by Bubba :....regardless what it does to my "circadian rhythms" It will sap all your precious bodily fluids . . . |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
Premium
join:2003-05-31
·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | reply to Mele20
quote:
I already know that medically and otherwise it is a very bad idea.
I would think Jet Lag and 3rd Shift is harder on the body then DST. A one hour shock of the body is not noticed by me when I am spending that extra hour of sunlight on my hammock. Did not even notice DST at all.
If you really are concerned with the negative effects of DST on the human body try mixing Feng Shui and DST and see how you feel.
Trying to organize furniture an hour earlier or later is really tough on the body and mind.
quote:
I hate it when I go to visit my mother in Arkansas and have to live with light artifically ended in the evening too late and starting funny in the morning.
By starting funny are you saying the Sun is telling jokes before rising? I will have to get up earlier to hear them.
The Pros and Cons of DST are brought up every year and it is forgotten until time to Spring forward or Fall back depending on when the complainers started complaining.
*Edit* Minor grammar correction.
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La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
·Vonage
| reply to Mele20
said by Mele20 :said by La Luna :said by Mele20 :We don't have daylight savings. What is this time change? Never heard of it. Do I need this software update if Hawaii doesn't observer daylight savings (which all states should stop observing IMO)? Why does this concern you if you "never heard of it" or don't have DST (which is it?)? Most people like DST as it gives more hours of daylight in the evening. Why would you need this update if Hawaii doesn't participate in DST? "...which all states should stop observing IMO"....which is a negative opinion on something that you "never heard of" or doesn't affect you. No one answered my question. I didn't especially need a link to an essay about how awful Daylight Savings Time is although that was ok as it is just more ammunition against it ....I already know that medically and otherwise it is a very bad idea. I don't know why anyone would like it. Who wants sunshine at 9PM and darkness at 10PM? That's nuts. I hate it when I go to visit my mother in Arkansas and have to live with light artifically ended in the evening too late and starting funny in the morning. It wasn't like that when I was growing up in Arkansas and we all managed just fine. There is no need to artifically manipulate time twice a year and disrupt circadian rhythms. I asked what is this time change? And no one told me...that Wiki essay doesn't either ....maybe somewhere in that long article is a reference to what I asked but I didn't see it and Wiki says the article badly needs updating and cleaning up...so I ask again what is this time change this coming year? I have sort of figured out it is going to be longer than in past years? Is that correct? That will be awful for us in Hawaii. Just awful ....we all hate it when you guys go on it and can't wait for you to get off it and if that time is extended...then double UGH. Plus, what is this Microsoft patch? It is only for those going on this NEW DST? Or what? Why is a patch needed in 2007 that wasn't needed when going on DST on the Mainland in 2006? Remember in Hawaii we don't have a bunch of news articles about DST on the Mainland. We can't even remember when you guys have it and don't...we just hate it and wish it would go away permanently as it is very disruptive of health, circadian rhythms, etc. for those who must endure it and bad for us in Hawaii for any business we have to do with the Mainland because it extends the already significant time difference so that in many instances I cannot call customer service for a business on the East Coast ever during DST because the hours are during my sleep hours and breakfast and I don't do mornings so I am not sufficiently awake to make a business call until after breakfast and by then customer service has closed. *headdesk* 
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
2 edits | headdesk? What is that? What is that smilie? I've never seen that one before, but then I use only a few common smilies even though I have a fancy smilie extension for Fx.
Earlier today, when I was out running I had two people stop me and ask me about this patch. (I've helped them in past with computer problems).They had no idea either that the Mainland was going on extended DST next year and they are unhappy also to hear this is happening because of the problem of not being able to call East Coast businesses during their business hours without inconvenience to us here. Hawaii, I think, needs to go on DST in self defense. |
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Bubba17
Less is More
Premium
join:2006-09-21
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said by Mele20 :There is no need to artifically manipulate time twice a year and disrupt circadian rhythms. You figure DST will create any radar screen blimp in the "circadian rhythms" of the hundreds of thousands of us that work shift work, or swing shifts?
I cannot call customer service for a business on the East Coast ever during DST because the hours are during my sleep hours and breakfast and I don't do mornings so I am not sufficiently awake to make a business call until after breakfast and by then customer service has closed.
You poor thing. Well, depending on how bad you wanted to make that business call, you just might be required to interrupt your "sleep hours" or, god forbid, delay your breakfast.
And tomorrow? Force yourself to step on pavement cracks .. they will NOT harm you. Honest.
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AB
Premium
join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA
| said by Bubba17 :said by Mele20 :There is no need to artifically manipulate time twice a year and disrupt circadian rhythms. You figure DST will create any radar screen blimp in the "circadian rhythms" of the hundreds of thousands of us that work shift work, or swing shifts? I cannot call customer service for a business on the East Coast ever during DST because the hours are during my sleep hours and breakfast and I don't do mornings so I am not sufficiently awake to make a business call until after breakfast and by then customer service has closed.
You poor thing. Well, depending on how bad you wanted to make that business call, you just might be required to interrupt your "sleep hours" or, god forbid, delay your breakfast. And I suppose it just never ocurred to you that not everyone has the phenomenally important 'CRY2' gene??
Not all plants or mice have it, and, given the evidence at hand, quite possibly not all Hawaiians, either.
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. . Force yourself to step on pavement cracks .. they will NOT harm you. . . Ha! Says you!
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| reply to Bubba17
said by Bubba17 :said by Mele20 :You poor thing. Well, depending on how bad you wanted to make that business call, you just might be required to interrupt your "sleep hours" or, god forbid, delay your breakfast. When I know I will be on the phone for three hours or more, I should forego breakfast? I should forego being alert when I speak to customer service? That makes so much sense. Thank you for saying that I should willing present myself as a sacrifical lamb to some damn business that has already screwed up something badly and that I want straightened out. In the case of Dell, it took SIX MONTHS OF DELL HELL on the phone, for many hours, three or four days a week and I should just totally disrupt my circadian rhythms (badly mess with my health in other words) because I want a company to make something right that is wrong and that is their fault not mine? Well, thank for that great advice.  --
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nohelpWA
join:2001-12-06
Federal Way, WA
1 edit | reply to Mele20
Sorry didn't see my link was previously posted. |
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