Bob from 1973
@telus.net | Windows kernel security Since the kernal is locked. Will Microsoft have a tool to check if it's corrupt ? What would this scenario mean for security for the average joe ? | |
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Bob from 1973
@telus.net | Re: Windows kernel security I'm talking about Vista. | |
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 | rotty97
join:2005-06-30
Australia
| Re: Windows kernel security I don't know 100% about the kernel. But once the DRM drivers are compromised then you can be sure that the Trojan CANNOT be removed because DRM runs on the basis that it is to protect the computer from the user.
It will not take long for the DRM drivers to be exploited constantly and Microsoft will HAVE to drop that component of the operating system eventually.
Microsoft still seem to believe they have the smartest programmers in the world, but the reality is that smarter people are born every year. Microsoft, DRM makers are really living in the past and need to give up on this DRM thing and make a better product so that people WANT to buy it.
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| | astirusty
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join:2000-12-23
Henderson, NV
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| Re: Windows kernel security said by rotty97  :Microsoft, DRM makers are really living in the past and need to give up on this DRM thing and make a better product so that people WANT to buy it. Microsoft doesn't need smarter programmers or a better product, because Microsoft has a legion of lawyers just like RIAA and MPAA. Freedom to Innovate Litigate. 
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| | dave
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join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
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| said by rotty97 :Microsoft still seem to believe they have the smartest programmers in the world, but the reality is that smarter people are born every year. Your contention is that people are getting progressively smarter? I don't think so.
Microsoft, DRM makers are really living in the past and need to give up on this DRM thing and make a better product so that people WANT to buy it. My impression is that's what Microsoft is doing. They figure that people WANT to buy 'media convergence' platforms, and before the content can exists, some sort of protection scheme is required.
That is, I think that Microsoft is ideologically neutral on this. Why would they WANT to build a content protection scheme? The answer is that a Windows platform with DRM appears to be more attractive to content providers, and that a Windows platform with content is more attractive to end-users.
(As a side-note, observe that Linus Torvalds is not opposed in principle to having DRM components in Linux. His motivation is similar: ubiquity of platform (though in his case that's not motivated in turn by profit)).
Do not construe this response as being in favour of DRM. I merely wish to suggest that if you think Microsoft isn't doing this with an eye to the market, you're wrong. You're simply considering a rather small subset of the end-user base.
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dave
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| The kernel isn't "locked". 64-bit versions of the OS prevent certain internal data tables from being overwritten, that's all.
I think I might have read that the OS bugchecks if said tables are overwritten, but I'm not sure. If correct, there's your detection right there.
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