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moonpuppy

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Pot meet kettle........

Is this a surprise to anyone?


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Re: Pot meet kettle........

it is an all out battle when it comes to earning the money ...

hopeflicker
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seems logical to me to offer a service where they might get the most customers.
I see nothing wrong with this "cherry picking" with a business minded point of view.

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

seems logical to me to offer a service where they might get the most customers.
I see nothing wrong with this "cherry picking" with a business minded point of view.
I agree, it's not like they're doing this with DSL/cable. It's FTTH, something that, at the moment, they're losing ridiculous amounts of money on. It's not about gaining more, it's about losing less.
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moonpuppy

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

seems logical to me to offer a service where they might get the most customers.
I see nothing wrong with this "cherry picking" with a business minded point of view.
The argument was that cable had to sign franchise agreements. In exchange for exclusivity, they had to wire up everyone. Now that competition is coming in, cable wants to cherry pick too.

Another issue is that both Verizon and Comcast want the right to deny anyone else into the market with only their "promise" to eventually serve an area that has no service.
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Re: Pot meet kettle........

But did they have to wire everyone before they could start selling to their 1st customer? Or could they install in phases. I would find it hard to believe that a project the size of Philly was done "big bang".
moonpuppy

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Re: Pot meet kettle........

said by TheGhost See Profile :

But did they have to wire everyone before they could start selling to their 1st customer? Or could they install in phases. I would find it hard to believe that a project the size of Philly was done "big bang".
In Baltimore City, in order to get a franchise, United Cable (later United Artists Cable, TCI Cable then Comcast) had to wire the entire city in 4 years. They agreed to it. They left a few pockets here and there and were threatened with lawsuits until they wired people up.

If they didn't intend on servicing everyone, they should never have signed the agreement.

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

seems logical to me to offer a service where they might get the most customers.
I see nothing wrong with this "cherry picking" with a business minded point of view.
So does that mean only the "wealthy" should get service and f**k everyone else?
I thought all this time EVERYONE paid into UNIVERSAL SERVICE FUND.
Why should the less fortunate take a hit because telcos floundered that UNIVERSAL SERVICE FUND.
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Re: Pot meet kettle........

said by Dominokat See Profile :

said by hopeflicker See Profile :

seems logical to me to offer a service where they might get the most customers.
I see nothing wrong with this "cherry picking" with a business minded point of view.
So does that mean only the "wealthy" should get service and f**k everyone else?
I thought all this time EVERYONE paid into UNIVERSAL SERVICE FUND.
Why should the less fortunate take a hit because telcos floundered that UNIVERSAL SERVICE FUND.
You have a point with the USF, but i dont know exactly how that money is allocated for development. It could just be a BS fee.
Ask yourself, would you open up a BMW dealership in Compton CA or Beverly Hills CA?
Yes, i know you can't compare cars and internet services but look at it in a business sense.
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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

seems logical to me to offer a service where they might get the most customers.
I see nothing wrong with this "cherry picking" with a business minded point of view.
I assume you will also apply that to Comcast who is deploying their 16/1 HSI tier in the areas that matter the most based on competition too, right? You know.. picking areas to deploy first before moving into the other areas.. right?

Just want to make sure this logic applies all around is all.
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

said by hopeflicker See Profile :

seems logical to me to offer a service where they might get the most customers.
I see nothing wrong with this "cherry picking" with a business minded point of view.
I assume you will also apply that to Comcast who is deploying their 16/1 HSI tier in the areas that matter the most based on competition too, right? You know.. picking areas to deploy first before moving into the other areas.. right?

Just want to make sure this logic applies all around is all.
I would think so, yes
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It is just cable wanting Verizon to get stuck in the morass of having to deal with every local community(one by one) in order to provide service. The cable companies had to do it, so they feel Verizon should too. But the fact that cable companies had to go thru that mess for over 30 years doesn't mean that is the way it should be going forward. Statewide franchises is the way to speed up new competitors entering the market. Cable companies just want to slow down their future competitors.
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ashworth

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Re: Pot meet kettle........

They didn't have to do anything to provide phone service.
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