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kyramilan

join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL

reply to matrix3D
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said by matrix3D See Profile :

That leads me to believe your company monitors its employees phone calls, which may or may not be legal. I mean look at the list of stuff you say they "allow" and stuff they don't. Porn and P2P is a quite obvious no-no at work, but MySpace? IM? All the stuff that's easy to monitor they allow.
Companies can monitor any employee's phone calls. Actually, our company encourages employees, since we all work 10-12 hours a day/5 days a week, to play a video game, log into MySpace, chat over IM, watch YouTube, etc. to relieve stress. We don't monitor phone calls either. We do see if people are making LD calls (but with everyone walking around with a cellphone no problems). Employees are trusted so never seen a problem personally.


Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
reply to TKJunkMail
To add to your post.

Another good reason why to use SIP over Skype.


vatorman

@cbs.com
reply to kyramilan
Re: Skype firewall bypass

Your company is myopic this is 2006!

I have used Skype since "Day One"... I love its audio quality. Get Real!


systemsadmin

@bellsouth.net

reply to TKJunkMail
Re: .

Well, if you have a competent administrator in charge of the systems in a business environment, it is easier to rely on other means of preventing Skype from getting on the network in the first place or dealing with it once its there so one doesn't have to rely on the firewall alone for protection.


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join:2001-01-19
Atlanta, GA

reply to karlmarx
said by karlmarx See Profile :

"It's their phone system and if they choose to monitor you, tough nuts"

And people wonder why everyone hates the megacorps. It's because of attitudes like that, attitudes that treat employees as disposable workers. That's the major problem of all the neo-con capitalists. They've all lost their humanity. I work for a smaller company, that DOESN'T monitor it's employees. We can shop, do banking, etc, all in work time. What matters to the company is that WE DO OUR JOBS. We are measured based on results, not on if there's a warm body sitting at a desk. I allow my staff absolute freedom to do what they want to do. All I ask is that they complete their tasks in a timely manner.
And without the neo-con capitalists you crap on how good would the business world be? While you are trying to make this political let me ask you this, is it just neo-con capitalists in charge of corporations? What about neo-libs in charge of corporations? Or are all the neo-libs just poor black men from the south who have nothing at all and live paycheck to paycheck? I'll answer that one for you, NOT. If you don't like the idea of your phone being monitored don't work for that company. But of course you won't do that. It's way too easy to whine from behind a keyboard then it is to actually change what you don't like in your life. You whine about neo-caps but you'll take their money anyday, damned hypocrite.
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karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
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reply to Fatal Vector
"It's their phone system and if they choose to monitor you, tough nuts"

And people wonder why everyone hates the megacorps. It's because of attitudes like that, attitudes that treat employees as disposable workers. That's the major problem of all the neo-con capitalists. They've all lost their humanity. I work for a smaller company, that DOESN'T monitor it's employees. We can shop, do banking, etc, all in work time. What matters to the company is that WE DO OUR JOBS. We are measured based on results, not on if there's a warm body sitting at a desk. I allow my staff absolute freedom to do what they want to do. All I ask is that they complete their tasks in a timely manner.
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Fatal Vector

join:2005-11-26

reply to matrix3D
"That leads me to believe your company monitors its employees phone calls, which may or may not be legal"

It's well established: It's their phone system and if they choose to monitor you, tough nuts. Why do you think that you get that warning about your calls may be monitored for "training purposes" whenever you call a major corporation? Why do you think CS reps just sit and spout the corporate line? Because they are being monitored and they know it. All your employer has to do is let it be known they are monitoring you, just like they do on the computer that THEY own, on the network THEY own.

Bottom line is that if you want privacy, use your own cellphone or computer, not the companies.

matrix3D

join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT


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reply to kyramilan
That leads me to believe your company monitors its employees phone calls, which may or may not be legal. I mean look at the list of stuff you say they "allow" and stuff they don't. Porn and P2P is a quite obvious no-no at work, but MySpace? IM? All the stuff that's easy to monitor they allow.


kyramilan

join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL

reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by Michieru2 See Profile :

It's not just to make it easy to setup and run without having to be some firewall wizz, it's also about bypassing access.
And if you are running a business, you don't want your employees bypassing firewalls, for security reasons, and other reasons too. Later, we will read where Skype wonders why the business world shuns their product. Well, this is why - encouraging users to bypass legitimate firewalls.
Our company is putting in a policy on Jan. 1st that if you use Skype, look for another job. They don't care about using email, MySpace, or even IMs but Skype (they don't allow any VOIP), porn and P2P (Torrents) will get you fired.


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said by Michieru2 See Profile :

It's not just to make it easy to setup and run without having to be some firewall wizz, it's also about bypassing access.
And if you are running a business, you don't want your employees bypassing firewalls, for security reasons, and other reasons too. Later, we will read where Skype wonders why the business world shuns their product. Well, this is why - encouraging users to bypass legitimate firewalls.
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Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL

I am not surprised, after all some ISP's don't want you calling through VOIP. From what I heard they are doing it in Europe and other countries in Asia as well.

Skype wants people across the globe to use there services and by that this is there way at fighting back at those who choose to block them. It's not just to make it easy to setup and run without having to be some firewall wizz, it's also about bypassing access.
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