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deadzoned
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join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
 ·Cox HSI
| reply to Alpine
Re: Great, but what he fails to mention..
said by Alpine  :That I certainly won't disagree with. They've got a significant infrastructure disadvantage against the cable cos, pure and simple. That's why they're always playing catchup FIOS doesn't have that disadvantage, but even in utopia FIOS is going to take years to get a decent deployment and market share. This is the biggest reason I support the ATT/BellSouth merger. The two apart, especially BellSouth, are going to have a next-to-impossible time finding the resources to catch-up with cable. This is even more true when DOCSIS 3.0 finally rolls out. Adam Heh, the reason that they are feeling the pinch now is because the Tele-Co's have made a lot of silly decisions based on their current bottom lines rather than thinking of the future and spending money to make money like most successful businesses do. 
I have no sympathy for them and I also question whether or not the mergers will have any affect on the future if the do go through. I don't see how merging 2 major phone companies that individually have shown that they are not willing to make good decisions will form one gigantic phone company that will suddenly make all the right decisions and do all the right things.
AT&T has their crappy U-Verse stop gap measure that they are trying to roll out in a limited fashion. Bellsouth has nothing that I can see that they are offering other than their normal DSL stuff.
It's real easy to understand - if you want to be competitive at all in the cable tv market and offer triple play services you have to be willing to spend the money on the proper technology and not waste time, money, and resources on outdated technology that will have to be upgraded almost immediately after you start adding more than a few subscribers to the system. FTTC vs. FTTH...
Heheh, I can't wait to see what they decide to do when they run out of bandwidth!
Verizon is the only company on the Tele-Co side doing it the right way. It's sad really, as the answer is right there to see but the AT&T''s and Bellsouth's of the world refuse to acknowledge it and instead look towards a merger to save them. It's pretty odd thinking. | |
Rob
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| reply to Mizzat
said by Mizzat :I am very posistive it is a lot less than 70% that can't get 3 or 6 meg. I'm sure it is. What my point is, BellSouth shouldn't flaunt that "30% or more are on 3 or 6 meg" when they knowingly know that a much larger percentage (obviously not 70%, but I use that # to make my point) cannot obtain 3 or 6 meg.
Going based on the ISP Planet's Top 22 U.S. ISPs by Subscriber list (for Q1 '06), let's estimate that BellSouth has (according to that list) 3,100,000 (3.1 Mil) subscribers. 30% of that (3 100 000 x (30%) ) gives me 930,000.
930,000 out of 3.1 mil either have 3.0mb or 6.0mb. That leaves ~2.2 Mil w/o the ability to get 3meg/6meg OR don't want it.
I'm sorry, but 2.2 Mil who have 1.5mb or less is terrible for our day and age. We're entering 2007 for crying out Fiber!
Pitiful that only 30% are on 3.0 or 6.0 meg. And that only 15% may possibily be on 6.0 meg.
BellSouth needs to get with the program.
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Mizzat
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join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| said by Rob :said by Mizzat :I am very posistive it is a lot less than 70% that can't get 3 or 6 meg. I'm sure it is. What my point is, BellSouth shouldn't flaunt that "30% or more are on 3 or 6 meg" when they knowingly know that a much larger percentage (obviously not 70%, but I use that # to make my point) cannot obtain 3 or 6 meg. Going based on the ISP Planet's Top 22 U.S. ISPs by Subscriber list (for Q1 '06), let's estimate that BellSouth has (according to that list) 3,100,000 (3.1 Mil) subscribers. 30% of that (3 100 000 x (30%) ) gives me 930,000. 930,000 out of 3.1 mil either have 3.0mb or 6.0mb. That leaves ~2.2 Mil w/o the ability to get 3meg/6meg OR don't want it. I'm sorry, but 2.2 Mil who have 1.5mb or less is terrible for our day and age. We're entering 2007 for crying out Fiber! Pitiful that only 30% are on 3.0 or 6.0 meg. And that only 15% may possibily be on 6.0 meg. BellSouth needs to get with the program. Yes, but what % of those don't care about speed any only want the least expensive? Most the people on these boards will care about speed but the vast majority on my experience do not really care. What % use it as a back-up product? There are a lot of other factor that would influence that number, so 30% of people want more speed and are willing to pay for it is a great deal. Take those same 1 million customers and lower their bill by $4 and that is $4 million less in revenue. So I am sure they are hoping with the less cost to jump to 6 meg that they will make that revenue up somehow by signing up more customers with a lower price and moving up those that can get the higher tier.
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join:2004-03-19
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| reply to Neyland
'But didn't Bellsouth put themselves into this situation by not being willing to invest heavily in it's own infrastructure the way cable has done?'
BellSouth has more deep fiber then any other major telecom in the US... or so I've been told. BellSouth hasn't deployed their next gen solution yet. | |
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