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Techman21

join:2005-04-14
Richmond, VA

Another annoyance

What is annoying about this is that we, the customer, are using a product that is sold to us in a way we wish to use it. Then we are scolded for using what we pay for. It seems many ISPs [read telco/cable] companies are upset over not having a piece of the pie and the usage of bandwidth isn't what they originally anticipated. So in order to retain customers and not have to upgrade equipment they screw with what their customers do with that connection. This is crappy imo. We pay for the service of being connected to the internet with pipes that are supposedly advertised at certain rates, then the companies can't deliver. Its almost a bait and switch scheme except its perfectly legal, however unscrupulous it is done...due to the ToS and its tiny writing of "not guaranteed" "with exception" etc, etc. Eventually as much as we don't want to we need to start dumping these companies for a bit to show we are the customer and they exist because we pay the bills. Shop with your dollars I say.

This really is starting to get annoying. Packet shaping traffic because you don't like it impedes creativity and further development of newer technologies on the internet. Just because they were unforeseen shouldn't make them "bad" or even if they aren't used the in the ways they were intended. Although, I do have to say that I think its a farce to believe BT was intended originally for anything else but sharing music, movies, games, et al. Effectively circumventing the normal P2P routes most Joe's were getting their music.


MxxCon

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said by Techman21 See Profile :

I think its a farce to believe BT was intended originally for anything else but sharing music, movies, games, et al. Effectively circumventing the normal P2P routes most Joe's were getting their music.
most definitely "share movies, games et al." but never illegally.
Bram Cohen created bittorent not because he didn't like speeds he was getting using gnutella or edonkey. he never designed it with warez as target users. it just happened to be used for that, but it was never his target.
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Enlightener

join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX
I call BS on this one. I've read his Manifesto and I don't buy that it was a parody at all.

»bitconjurer.org/a_technological_···nda.html

amungus
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wow, never read that before... interesting.

anyway, bt was initially created to facilitate trading of taped shows, legally. despite what some people think, many bands allow their shows to be recorded, and don't care if the recording is shared.. As long as nobody's SELLING them and trying to make a buck off of what should be TRADED, it's all good. Other bands, however, do wish to SELL their own shows, and often produce a high quality soundboard recording that's been professionally mixed... I've bought a few, and they're well worth the money for FLAC's...

from what I read, he had a friend who was an avid taper and wanted an good way to distribute these sets to people. to share it easily, and not have servers explode under the load of a billion hippies all wanting to download the previous night's set in lossless audio...

so, that's what I heard. A noble cause really, and the technology happened to get picked up by more and more people with less noble ideas in mind for its use...
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