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IPingUPing
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Business Model

BitTorrent's business model is to resell access to bandwidth that is not their own.

From »www.bittorrent.com/companyoverview.html

At the foundation of the BitTorrent experience is the software client, which has become the industry standard for the distribution of large files. With over 70 million users worldwide, it leverages the install base to simultaneously increase transfer speeds and decrease bandwidth costs during the download process.
Can't imagine what would happen if I wanted to resell cell phone access through my Verizon or Cingular account, can you? Why should this be any different?


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY


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December 22nd, @05:49PM


Bite My Shiny Ass
Reselling what, WE are the ones paying for the bandwidth, and I am sure the bit-torrent sites are paying good money for their server space. I am not talking about content, there are plenty of good, legal stuff to download. Remember the ISP's provide the bandwidth and are paid for it's use in various ways no body is stealing anything. Your example of cell phone use is completely bogus.
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IPingUPing
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Let me guess, you only distribute Linux ISO's and Phish concert tapes? Riiiiigght.

It's not YOUR bandwidth. You are not buying a dedicated connection as a residential user, you are buying a best effort connection. For example, here's some of the terms for your ISP: »www.qwest.com/legal/usagePolicy.html.

Users shall not use the Qwest Network and Services in order to transmit, distribute or store material: (a) in violation of any applicable law or regulation, including export or encryption laws or regulations; (b) that may adversely affect the Qwest Network and Services or other Qwest customers; or (c) that may expose Qwest to criminal or civil liability. Users are prohibited from facilitating the violation of any part of this AUP or another provider's AUP, including, but not limited to transmitting, distributing, or otherwise making available any product or service that violates this AUP or another provider's AUP.


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

Ya, Ya I see you have all of the answers. In fact I do not download anything from Bi-Torrent that is considered illegal. All of my downloading is English documentaries not available in the United States in any form and from a bit-torrent tracker that is very careful about it's content. so I repeat you can kiss my shiny ass and you can take you best effort and stick it where the sun don't shine.
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thender
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reply to IPingUPing
Business model? There is no business model. Cohen doesn't receive money when you download gentoo linux using bittorrent.


thender
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said by IPingUPing See Profile :

Let me guess, you only distribute Linux ISO's and Phish concert tapes? Riiiiigght.

It's not YOUR bandwidth. You are not buying a dedicated connection as a residential user, you are buying a best effort connection. For example, here's some of the terms for your ISP: »www.qwest.com/legal/usagePolicy.html.

Users shall not use the Qwest Network and Services in order to transmit, distribute or store material: (a) in violation of any applicable law or regulation, including export or encryption laws or regulations; (b) that may adversely affect the Qwest Network and Services or other Qwest customers; or (c) that may expose Qwest to criminal or civil liability. Users are prohibited from facilitating the violation of any part of this AUP or another provider's AUP, including, but not limited to transmitting, distributing, or otherwise making available any product or service that violates this AUP or another provider's AUP.
That's too bad for the ISPs, then. Some adapting is in order!

Qwest is one of the worst ISPs on the face of the earth.. their TOS means little.
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join:2004-09-12
Denver, CO

Thasp's knows what he is talking about. Qwest has high interleave because they are to lazy to fix some of the errors there lines. Then they also kill p2p traffic because i dunno they suck? But who i'm i to talk Bresnan cable in Cheyenne,wy over sells there bandwidth from at&t and sprint when you get on at 8pm at night your pings are 400ms then 11pm back down to what they should be.

dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

No, thasp doesn't know what he's talking about. The TOS "means little". Well alrighty then

Despite what the website says, Qwest doesn't block P2P traffic. People have had problems with the modem locking up due to too many connections and the like leading them to believe that Qwest is throttling them. This issue has come up multiple times on the Qwest forum.

Every connection generates errors; moreso if you have a long line with high attenuation. Interleaving trades latency for stability. Some don't like it, but the policy has nothing to do with laziness.

In other words, you're just making things up.
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