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WNGFAN 1

join:2003-11-02
Leamington, ON

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

Removed lavasoft Ad-Aware SE through control panel-add/remove programs. Is that sufficient or will I need to dig a bit deeper into My system?

bettywont
Premium
join:2004-09-11
Montreal, QC

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

Personally I always go into the registry after and get rid of the reminisce.This way I'm sure it's cleaned up.

wmgoat
If It's Not Broken, Don't Mess With It

join:2000-12-12
Huntley, IL
clubs:

Ok after seeing several alternatives listed in this thread, are any totally free?
I went to superantispywares site and its 30 bucks after a 30 day trial. I could probably get a license from a hacking site, but thats not the way I want to go.

Im currently using spybot on one system(which I know is free) but Im just wondering if its also just not effective enough. Its always seem to keep me out of trouble, but Im not really sure if its really catching all the vermin.

Ive tried windows defender (and I wasnt impressed, spybot seems to work better.)

I also have a new version of webroot's spysweeper (which I know is a bought program and after the first year requires a subscription to maintain it but I got it for free after rebate and thought Id try it just for comparisons sake. I plan to install it shortly after the holiday season)

Ive seen the polls, but am still wondering which free ap is the most effective for detecting and preventing malware? And then which is the best, even if it costs? (independent web site and prod review comparisons would be nice to see if you have them)
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Thug21
Just Chillin'
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join:2005-08-21

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

There is a free (minus real time protection) version of SuperAntiSpyware.

norwegian
Premium
join:2005-02-15
Outback
·WestNet Broadband


Doesn't sound too good. Sorry to hear they aren't climbing up the security ladder.
Thought hiring C.J. was a bonus for them.

Oh well, we do lie in our own mess. Hope Lavasoft see's the light.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke

pianojl

join:2003-07-08
Sebastian, FL
"Click" *Removed*
I still won't keep it.

WALL_E
Premium
join:2003-05-28
USA

I, for one, will continue to use Lavasoft Ad-aware when I clean other people's machines. Not because I don't trust Lavasoft enough for my own computer; I just don't need an antispyware at this point on my machine.

Is an "issue" like this really worth eliminating a potentially valuable security software product? There was not breach of privacy in this case; it was an email sent by the system that Lavasoft uses. They have not given anyone's email address to a 3rd party for marketing purposes! Removing this piece of software from your toolkit makes that toolkit less robust!

How can we hold a security software product to such irrationally-high standards when the very operating system it runs on (not bashing Windows or Microsoft; I actually LIKE Windows) uses DRM at such a deep level in its next revision? By these standards I suspect that MOST software products that we use would be unacceptable: just consider the number of software developers that use a 3rd party system for their mailing list!
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That only stupid people are breeding
The cretins cloning and feeding
And I don't even own a TV.

Barbara Ann
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join:2000-10-17
Thanks Corrine - another one down the tube!
older dog
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join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

said by Barbara Ann See Profile :

Thanks Corrine - another one down the tube!
If you read the thread you would have found out Corrine was mistaken

81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

said by older dog See Profile :

said by Barbara Ann See Profile :

Thanks Corrine - another one down the tube!
If you read the thread you would have found out Corrine was mistaken
that's your opinion
older dog
Premium
join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

True but I see no reason to mistrust Calamity Jane
Do you?

81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

said by older dog See Profile :

True but I see no reason to mistrust Calamity Jane
Do you?
Kind off jane is working for lavasoft so will say whatever is told to say. I personally do not like 3rd party handling emails for any company as lavasoft had to give them list of emails in order to send the emails.
older dog
Premium
join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

Reading some peoples post you can get a feeling on how likely they are to lie under pressure or not.

I don’t sense a lie here on anyone’s part which includes the original poster, just some misunderstandings.

salzan
Experienced Optimist
Premium
join:2004-01-08
WA State

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

said by older dog See Profile :

I don’t sense a lie here on anyone’s part which includes the original poster, just some misunderstandings.
And Lavasoft/WhenU was just a misunderstanding.This company is supposedly helping you keep your privacy. What's the misunderstanding when they give your info to a third party. No matter what the excuse, ie: we're just too busy....
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A silver bullet without a gun is just a fancy rock.
older dog
Premium
join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

When U was a different issue some time ago, let’s hope it is never repeated.

I believe in second chances and this looks like a business decision to outsource their mailings.
I will keep my eyes open but until I see some more proof that they were selling email address to a marketer I will take them at there word

I am not one to jump to quickly, a friend or a business will have me at their side till it is clear that they no longer deserve it.

La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
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·Optimum Online
·Vonage

said by 81399672 See Profile :

said by older dog See Profile :

True but I see no reason to mistrust Calamity Jane
Do you?
Kind off jane is working for lavasoft so will say whatever is told to say. I personally do not like 3rd party handling emails for any company as lavasoft had to give them list of emails in order to send the emails.
Another stupid (and rude) statement...you apparently think CJ is a robot who can't think for herself or would sit back quietly and say nothing if something nefarious was going on. How insulting.

I can't believe people are freaking out because LS has handed over their newsletter mailings to another (well known) company, which is nothing new or unusual. Most people probably don't have a clue where "newsletter" type emails actually originate from, especially when there are large amounts of them to be sent out.

If everyone is so paranoid, use a throw away email address or don't "sign up" for mailings, or better yet, don't ever use products that require an email address to download and install....you never know who they're going to sell your *soul* to.
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~~Well, I think you're crazy, I think you're crazy, I think you're crazy, just like me...~~


Hutch
My Throne is the Dunny
Premium
join:2000-10-14
Out House

said by 81399672 See Profile :

said by older dog See Profile :

True but I see no reason to mistrust Calamity Jane
Do you?
Kind off jane is working for lavasoft so will say whatever is told to say. I personally do not like 3rd party handling emails for any company as lavasoft had to give them list of emails in order to send the emails.
I trust CalamityJane See Profile. Her advise to users on this board has always been with sincerity and the want to help them with whatever issue they have. I see no lies here. Corrine See Profile & CalamityJane See Profile have always been up front as long as I have known them as well.

I un-installed Adware a while back. Not because of these emails handled by a third party company. I just have no need for adware to be on my PC's anymore.
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Who Gives A.......Don't Ask Me....Cos I Don't Give A ****
Kiwi
Premium
join:2003-05-26
USA
·Comcast
·Aristotle Internet

said by 81399672 See Profile :

said by older dog See Profile :

True but I see no reason to mistrust Calamity Jane
Do you?
Kind off jane is working for lavasoft so will say whatever is told to say. I personally do not like 3rd party handling emails for any company as lavasoft had to give them list of emails in order to send the emails.
I was taking a break, but it's time people realized what your input really is, in general a small kid making out you are older, with a wish list to be grown up before your time! either that or seriously handicapped and that does tend to give 'Extra' privileges around here; Stop trolling the forums.

WhenU was a rather nasty event. Corrine you made an excellent observation and that tends to ride back to basics, people are getting lazy when it comes to basics. I think you are an asset in security.

Calamity is rather profound and not only respected, but liked. I'm sure CJ has a few answers and this was one!

Two fine Representatives, so don't knock them!

81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

i am 25 soon to be 26 so no i am not a kid
Kiwi
Premium
join:2003-05-26
USA

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

Then act like it, you have made statements that profess older years and expertize. These people have been a round security for sometime, they are well worth listening to; sometimes it's prudent to sit back.

monski

join:2000-10-04
Grandville, MI
I also just removed Lavasoft from my home computer and laptop. I'll remove it from my work computer next week.

Thanks Corrine!

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ
Why register? updates are posted on DSLR.
Kiwi
Premium
join:2003-05-26
USA
·Comcast
·Aristotle Internet

I just ripped through the free version and don't find anything astounding....But, like the other long timers, I do remember the issues with Lavasoft. It's pretty much moot, not much to talk about really ~Knocking out a few cookies does not amount too much.

Sometimes, it would be nice, if people stopped relying on these rather benign programs and began to understand their Reg files. I know, it's an old concept; but when will people get tired of relying on others for basic cleanups?

I won't knock S&D, to date I have not seen any inference that indicates a problem. Still, it's time to get past the cookie cutter and delve a wee bit deeper into reality.

Well, that's my .2c

Cudni
La Merma - Vigilado
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join:2003-12-20
Someshire

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

I don't think Corrine See Profile needs traffic to her site any more than Lavasoft needs to breach privacy to email 1mil people. It was a valid concern of hers that she raised and that was answered.

AdAware, after reading CalamityJane See Profile contribution, remains useful free app to help fight spyware.

Cudni
--
Some are born to failure, others achieve it, all deserve it.
Help yourself so God can help you.
MVP, Microsoft Windows Security 2006

Corrine
Premium
join:2004-08-27

said by bettywont See Profile :

Seems to me you are stirring the pot to promote your site and I'm not falling for it.
Not hardly.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To those uninstalling Ad-Aware, please note that my complaint was not about Ad-Aware, but rather the sudden appearance of an e-mail from an e-marketing company, with no change to the Lavasoft privacy policy and the fake-looking information in the email, which, when mousing over the links showed a dr.bluehornet.com address -- including the link to the Lavasoft Privacy Policy.

I have been subscribed to Lavasoft newsletters and the like since 2003 (not November 7, 2006 as indicated in the email), volunteered countless hours on the former support forum, have continued to help users with Ad-Aware & Ad-Watch at the current forum and other help forums, and went out on a limb defending Lavasoft over the WhenU fiasco (Yes, it was a very badly handled situation and has been rectified with proper notice now when there is a de-listing.)

Although my post had nothing to do with the number of users of Ad-Aware, don't be confused with the number of cumulative downloads of the various versions of AAW with the number of users. Having "lived through" a version release, I am well aware that the counter at download.com and the other mirror sites was not reset to reflect a new version but rather added on. Thus, 200 million downloads of AAW does not mean there are close to 200 million users of AAW.

CJ, you are the best and have my sincere and utmost respect.
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Microsoft MVP, Windows - Security; Admin Council; Charter Member
ASAP; Take a walk though the Security Garden, Where Everything is Coming up Roses"

CalamityJane
Premium,VIP,MVM
join:2002-08-27
Eustis, FL

Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!

said by Corrine See Profile :

CJ, you are the best and have my sincere and utmost respect.
And you have mine!

Corrine does a lot of hard work volunteering in numerous forums too. She helps a lot of people, not only with Ad-Aware but with malware removal in general and overall PC security. I hardly think she was asking the question to "plug" her blog. Knowing Corrine as well as I do working closely with her over the years - she just doesn't operate that way.

It was a good question because there are likely others who wondered about the newsletter coming from Blue Hornet all of a sudden (me, not being observant enough to have noticed it when I got mine)...I saw Corrine's question here and sought to get a answer from the source. Which we did - so that's great and if anyone still wonders they now have an answer if they search for it.
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It takes a disaster to make a woman out of a female
Microsoft MVP/Windows Security 2003-2007
Proud Member of ASAP (Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals)

delenn13
De gustibus nil disputandum
Premium,MVM
join:2006-03-02
Ridgeway, ON
clubs:

I have been using Ad Aware for years and I will continue to use it, as it has served my husband and I well. I have come to trust most of the people and their opinions, reflections and knowledge here. Sometimes you have to wait for the dust to settle after a storm to what really happened. That is what I did before I was ready to delete the program.

Thank you Corrine See Profile and CalamityJane See Profile for clearing that up.
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