WNGFAN 1
join:2003-11-02
Leamington, ON | reply to Corrine
Re: Lavasoft = Privacy? Not any more!
Removed lavasoft Ad-Aware SE through control panel-add/remove programs. Is that sufficient or will I need to dig a bit deeper into My system? |
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bettywont
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join:2004-09-11
Montreal, QC | Personally I always go into the registry after and get rid of the reminisce.This way I'm sure it's cleaned up. |
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wmgoat
If It's Not Broken, Don't Mess With It
join:2000-12-12
Huntley, IL
clubs: 
 ·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Corrine
Ok after seeing several alternatives listed in this thread, are any totally free?
I went to superantispywares site and its 30 bucks after a 30 day trial. I could probably get a license from a hacking site, but thats not the way I want to go.
Im currently using spybot on one system(which I know is free) but Im just wondering if its also just not effective enough. Its always seem to keep me out of trouble, but Im not really sure if its really catching all the vermin.
Ive tried windows defender (and I wasnt impressed, spybot seems to work better.)
I also have a new version of webroot's spysweeper (which I know is a bought program and after the first year requires a subscription to maintain it but I got it for free after rebate and thought Id try it just for comparisons sake. I plan to install it shortly after the holiday season)
Ive seen the polls, but am still wondering which free ap is the most effective for detecting and preventing malware? And then which is the best, even if it costs? (independent web site and prod review comparisons would be nice to see if you have them)
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Thug21
Just Chillin'
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join:2005-08-21 | There is a free (minus real time protection) version of SuperAntiSpyware. |
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norwegian
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join:2005-02-15
Outback
·WestNet Broadband
| reply to Corrine
Doesn't sound too good. Sorry to hear they aren't climbing up the security ladder.
Thought hiring C.J. was a bonus for them.
Oh well, we do lie in our own mess. Hope Lavasoft see's the light.
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pog
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
·Hawaiian Telcom
| reply to winchester73
I wonder if anyone will care what the response is now that one is posted by "LS Michael":
You can be assured that your e-mails have not been 'turned over' to a 3rd party marketing firm to do with as they please. BlueHornet is simply the mailing engine required to send our monthly newsletter out to the nearly 1 million people on the mailing list now. Lavasoft owns the list and will always own the list, thus the sender as editor@lavasoft.com (the same e-mail that is published for our newsletter). It's really nothing to get worked up over. In fact, checking out what BlueHornet does as a business should have been enough of a clue.
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81399672
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join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA | i still say good bye to them and just switched to superantispyware |
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norwegian
Premium
join:2005-02-15
Outback
·WestNet Broadband
| reply to pog
said by pog  :I wonder if anyone will care what the response is now that one is posted by "LS Michael": You can be assured that your e-mails have not been 'turned over' to a 3rd party marketing firm to do with as they please. BlueHornet is simply the mailing engine required to send our monthly newsletter out to the nearly 1 million people on the mailing list now. Lavasoft owns the list and will always own the list, thus the sender as editor@lavasoft.com (the same e-mail that is published for our newsletter). It's really nothing to get worked up over. In fact, checking out what BlueHornet does as a business should have been enough of a clue. I think it's about the term "trusted computing". People don't expect security vendors to be sharing thier info, or users info about the internet. Guess the fear factor comes to head here.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| reply to antiserious
said by antiserious :said by dadkins :The thing is, some of us have machines that would be crippled if we were to use Linux. If you have basic needs, Linux is fine! Knock yourself out!  Not to wander O/T and get spanked for it, but I can assure you that I have more than 'basic needs' and linux satisfies them all, and then some ! There's a lot of misconception about Linux, but I think (or hope, at least) you know me well enough to know I'm not in the habit of "blowin' smoke" at the membership here. You might be surprised at what Linux is up to these days, if you choose the right distro for your hardware and 'special needs' (no offense to the short-bus crew). Anyway, enough O/T blather - different strokes, and all that. At least we can agree that Lavasoft sucks.  I try them all the time... I get bored often. 
Trust me, none of them can do what I want/need for *this* machine. Sorry.
Even Vista Ultimate can't cut it! 
Have a look. The docking station and remote are a must!
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Corrine
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join:2004-08-27
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@OldComputer - Indeed Maria Callas has an incredible voice.
Norwegian, CJ is a bonus for LS. Everyone here knows how good she is and you know she is doing what she loves. You're right too. It is about "trusted computing". For me it isn't an issue of fear but rather just another straw, ya know?
(P.S. Hi, dadkins & everyone. Its good to see you again.)
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norwegian
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join:2005-02-15
Outback
·WestNet Broadband
| said by Corrine : It is about "trusted computing". For me it isn't an issue of fear but rather just another straw, ya know? I can't understand why Lavasoft cause themselves the publicity they do. I still use Ad-Aware here but a few I know don't because of the decisions they have made in the past.
For 10 good, it only takes one bad decision to tarnish your name. Trusting an off base company to hold on to personal info is a big step, particularly a security company. Do LS monitor the database servers of this company ? Did they pick this company over an advertisement ? Another company's suggestion, or hearsay ?
As for C.J. she would have to be a bonus to anyone who employs here, as would a lot of people that visit here, who are kind enough to help those not so fortunate in the knowledge of O/S' and the internet. Sorry I mentioned it the way I did, it wasn't meant to sound like a curve ball.
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CalamityJane
Premium,VIP,MVM
join:2002-08-27
Eustis, FL
| reply to norwegian
said by norwegian :I think it's about the term "trusted computing". People don't expect security vendors to be sharing thier info, or users info about the internet. Guess the fear factor comes to head here. There is a lot of misperception in that statement.
Blue Hornet is a subsidiary of Digital River and they handle the newsletter emailing because of the extreme size of the mailings that has reached over 1 million subscribed and growing. Digital River is a trusted long time partner of Lavasoft and they handle these types of services for other large companies such as Autodesk, eBay, Symantec, and Trend Micro.
With 200 million Ad-aware users world-wide, and over 1 million of them subscribed to the newletter it is a natural course of business to use the Blue Hornet services to handle that large an email database and monthly mailings.
Lavasoft owns the newsletter email list... period. They have not 'handed over' any e-mails to a third-party marketing company. And their e-mails will not be used in any other way than to receive the Lavasoft mailings. If you are subscribed and don't wish to receive them any longer, you can simply unsubscribe.
I did ask LS Michael last night to please check this thread and sorry I wasn't around when she responded. She IS the editor at Lavasoft and she responded in the thread at the Lavasoft Forum because you all had stated here that you were looking for an "official response" in that thread over there.
There is no huge breach of trusted computing here. And yes, CJ is very happy in what she does in the Forums administation and malware research she does for Lavasoft - but LS Michael is truly the one to answer your questions about the newsletter, and I think she has.
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norwegian
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join:2005-02-15
Outback
·WestNet Broadband
| Thanks for the clarification C.J. must have been posting at the same time.
It answers a lot of my questions.
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CalamityJane
Premium,VIP,MVM
join:2002-08-27
Eustis, FL
| You're welcome, Norwegian.
I still do a great deal of volunteer work in this forum so it and it's members are still very near and dear to my heart. I try to get the right answers from the right people for everyone, even if it isn't always from me directly
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It takes a disaster to make a woman out of a femaleMicrosoft MVP/Windows Security 2003-2007Proud Member of ASAP (Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals) |
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pianojl
join:2003-07-08
Sebastian, FL | reply to Corrine
"Click" *Removed*
I still won't keep it. |
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SnowyOne
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Kailua, HI
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Clearwire Wireless
| reply to CalamityJane
This sounds very similar to a company handing over their postal mailing lists to a postal mailing house. Oftentimes it's cheaper, faster & a whole lot more smarter for a company to sub out their postal mailing than doing it in house.
So like anything else the mail list is as safe as whoever you contract for the work is honest.
Truth be known, a postal mailing list is worth a whole lot more money than an equally populated email list & a postal list is a lot more sensitive than an email list too. I can't recall ever hearing a complaint about the electric company using a mail service to send out their bills despite the fact that they have your real name & address attatched to them. Try figure? |
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WALL_E
Premium
join:2003-05-28
USA
| reply to Corrine
I, for one, will continue to use Lavasoft Ad-aware when I clean other people's machines. Not because I don't trust Lavasoft enough for my own computer; I just don't need an antispyware at this point on my machine.
Is an "issue" like this really worth eliminating a potentially valuable security software product? There was not breach of privacy in this case; it was an email sent by the system that Lavasoft uses. They have not given anyone's email address to a 3rd party for marketing purposes! Removing this piece of software from your toolkit makes that toolkit less robust!
How can we hold a security software product to such irrationally-high standards when the very operating system it runs on (not bashing Windows or Microsoft; I actually LIKE Windows) uses DRM at such a deep level in its next revision? By these standards I suspect that MOST software products that we use would be unacceptable: just consider the number of software developers that use a 3rd party system for their mailing list!
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Barbara Ann
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join:2000-10-17 | reply to Corrine
Thanks Corrine - another one down the tube! |
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older dog
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join:2005-06-09
Norwich, NY
| said by Barbara Ann :Thanks Corrine - another one down the tube! If you read the thread you would have found out Corrine was mistaken |
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81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
| said by older dog :said by Barbara Ann :Thanks Corrine - another one down the tube! If you read the thread you would have found out Corrine was mistaken that's your opinion |
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