squid7
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join:2006-09-02 | Hmmm...
Missed all the 1080P pirated content. DVD rips are common but haven't seem any 1080P stuff yet and at 25GB+ each I probably won't for a while. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| meh 1080p isnt that good that im going to buy two DVD players. call me when i can get a dual format HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player for 90 bucks down at the best buy. or one format wins out and sells players at walmart prices.
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squid7
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join:2006-09-02 | I would imagine the bulk of Blu-Ray owners will be PS3 users. |
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Apollo729
join:2006-08-28
Avis, PA | reply to squid7
You must not be looking in the right places then, I done a search for 1080p and returned at least 50 different things, many of them TV shows, but still, there is 1080p stuff out there, most clocks in at around 12 to 26GB. |
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vinnie97
join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | TV shows at 1080p? Broadcasts aren't even greater than 720p currently... |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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I love my HDTV content. I can definitely see that HDTV is better than DVD quality video. That said, DVD quality is "good enough" on my 50" plasma. I'm in no rush to go out and buy Blu Ray or HD-DVD.
1080p is nice but probably unimportant unless you have a really, really big screen.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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said by squid7  :Missed all the 1080P pirated content. DVD rips are common but haven't seem any 1080P stuff yet and at 25GB+ each I probably won't for a while. 1. Most of the nextgen HD is still 1080i transfer. In fact the first HD-DVD player with 1080p is just about to be released.
Blu-Ray is even worst, a now-show so far, negligible sales compared to HD-DVD.
2. You might have missed but I have all the 007 in HD, all form the net. I also have 1080p from the same source.
3. Size is stupidest comment: since when 25GB is a serious thing? I have 10Mb here now but even on a 3 Mbit it takes only few days to download... |
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squid7
Premium
join:2006-09-02
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said by vinnie97 :TV shows at 1080p? Broadcasts aren't even greater than 720p currently... It depends on the network. OTA here in LA Fox may be 720P but others like PBS and CBS are 1920x1080i. I don't know what the individual shows are though. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
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said by squid7 :I would imagine the bulk of Blu-Ray owners will be PS3 users. Chances are next to nil - serious HT owners won't put a PS3 into their system and current Blu-Ray titles truly inferior to HD-DVDs, despite BR still uses the old MPEG2... |
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squid7
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join:2006-09-02
1 edit | reply to kamm
Huh? Despite unit shortages, Sony has sold nearly 200,000 PS3's in the US and nearly 200,000 units in Japan in the first few months of release, and all are 1080P Blu-Ray equipped (via HDMI).
As for HD-DVD 1080P, the cheapest HD DVD drive available, the XBOX 360's HD DVD drive already supports 1080P content via VGA and a recent SW update from what I read.
As far as bandwidth, most people don't have 10Mb service and some of those that do, like me (at 12Mb) are limited to 40-60GB a month making HD downloads difficult to do in any quantity even if they're willing to wait DAYS to grab a single title. |
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squid7
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join:2006-09-02
3 edits | reply to kamm
said by kamm :said by squid7 :I would imagine the bulk of Blu-Ray owners will be PS3 users. Chances are next to nil - serious HT owners won't put a PS3 into their system and current Blu-Ray titles truly inferior to HD-DVDs, despite BR still uses the old MPEG2... With nearly 400,000 PS3's already sold and more going out every day as they catch up with demand, I would still say the bulk of Blu-Ray owners are PS3 users. As for serious HT owners, most consumers of video aren't "serious" hometheater addicts and with Blu-Ray and HD-DVD being available for rent (unlike DVHS) there is no reason why these formats would be used mainly by enthusiasts. It will be all about the price of the players which is coming down for both formats and the content available for each format. |
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
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You haven't looked hard enough.
1080P pirate material is out there. But you are right, the size is insane. Even with a reasonably fast connection you will spend several hours on a single film.
IMHO, you can't say pirates have won UNLESS these next generation copy protection schemes are completely and utterly broken to the point where I can dub a HD or BD disc and the other person can play it with no catches in-between.
Until such time...
And for the record, I believe HD DVD has won the next generation DVD format war. |
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antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
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said by vinnie97 :TV shows at 1080p? Broadcasts aren't even greater than 720p currently... CW (e.g., Smallville, Supernatural, etc.) are 1080i |
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anon31415
@comcast.net
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Most nextgen HD content are movies and are 1080p @ 24 fps. This applies to HD DVD as well as Blu-Ray. The current generation of players for both HD DVD and Blu-Ray support 1080p.
Of course, size matters. Unless you have a HD DVD or Blu-Ray recorder, what are you going to archive your 25GB pirated movie on? |
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
clubs: | reply to squid7
Chicago area has a mix of 720p and 1080i. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
1 edit | reply to antdude
Any 1080i content that originated from film (i.e., almost all HD TV shows) can be straightforwardly converted back to 1080p/24 (and 1080p/48 with frame doubling) via reverse-pulldown deinterlacing. CBS even calls their HD broadcasts "1080 lines, interlacing and progressive".
I'm not surprised at the article. Most "netheads" seem not to care about HD. Maybe because alot of them watch their content on 19" monitor screens? On tiny screens like that, SD DVD's are good enough. |
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antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
| said by PDXPLT :Any 1080i content that originated from film (i.e., almost all HD TV shows) can be straightforwardly converted back to 1080p/24 (and 1080p/48 with frame doubling) via reverse-pulldown deinterlacing. CBS even calls their HD broadcasts "1080 lines, interlacing and progressive". I'm not surprised at the article. Most "netheads" seem not to care about HD. Maybe because alot of them watch their content on 19" monitor screens? On tiny screens like that, SD DVD's are good enough. Or 17" CRT for me with my HDTV tuner card (don't have a HDTV). |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
1 edit | reply to squid7
said by squid7 :Missed all the 1080P pirated content. DVD rips are common but haven't seem any 1080P stuff yet and at 25GB+ each I probably won't for a while. This is because there are no 1080p broadcasts.
There are tons of movies out there that are aired in 720p and 1080i that haven't even MADE IT to HD DVD and bluray. There are tons of people who wouldn't even mind the DRM bullshit if they could just get the movie that's been pirated, and out in HDTV on usenet/FTPs for the last two years on HDDVD or bluray.
Downloading a 25 GB file is rough, but weigh that against the amount of time it'll take The Shawshank Redemption to come out in bluray/HDDVD.. I own and love this movie on DVD, and would love it in HDDVD or bluray, but it hasn't come out in HD yet. I've had a "special" HD copy of it from the internet for over six months now.
Piracy doesn't have to win because it's easier, or because it's free. It wins because it's there where the legit content is seriously lacking.
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aztecnology
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join:2003-02-12
Murrieta, CA | reply to vinnie97
1080p requires too much bandwidth, broadcasters aren't touching it. People will have to get their fill on xbox360/ps3 and bluray/hddvd for their progressive content... |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to squid7
we need a firm HD resolution standard. 720p 1080i 1080p is infact quite confusing to your typical buying a TV set at Best Buy consumer.
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