brianiscool
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Miami, FL |  If you have nothing to hide.
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GOLFnSUN
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| said by brianiscool  :If you have nothing to hide don't encrypt your data. Of course, they do have something to hide. Because most of the bittorrent users(NOT ALL) are using it to steal movies and songs.
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Kevin83165
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Herrin, IL | This age old topic "steal movies and music" has been beaten down and regurgitated for way too long now. Yawn. |
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brianiscool
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Miami, FL | Lets just start encrypting all of our data. |
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meister_sd
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La Mesa, CA | reply to brianiscool
This article doesn't discuss "hiding" because of downloading whatever, it discusses encryption to get around the throttle of ISPs. |
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danclan
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said by brianiscool :If you have nothing to hide don't encrypt your data. This quote is so stupid its beyond words...You see it all the time .. "Well if you are innocent you don't need to worry....or If you aren't doing anything wrong you don't have to worry".
Why not? Who says? Where is the line drawn? You are explicitly giving up your rights as a user or citizen when you post such drivel. I want my government to fear me. I vote them into office, they work for me. I want my telco/cable co power co to fear me. I am their customer as is my neighbor and his neighbor. We pay explicitly for them to provide me a service.
How I chose to transmit information is none of their concern. Whether I use encryption or not is of no importance. Whether I'm hiding information from my kids or wife or neighbor is none of the telcos or governments concern. I could be encrypting everything just because I can and you know what...that's my prerogative. |
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squid7
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As another poster mentioned, the throttling ISP's are throttling BT no matter what you're transferring. It's not like they see you downloading a movie so they throttle you. |
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SinNombre
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Charlotte, NC
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that's naive and contrary to the reason why most ISPs traffic shape or try to lock down popular torrent ports in the first place. even if you aren't trying to "hide" something, alot of companies (read the freakin article, first) limit torrents for completely arbitrary reasons, anyway. |
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exocet_cm
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DJ Doboy and I think DJ GT both use torrents to distribute their free music. Not everybody uses this technology for illegal purposes. |
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MASantangelo
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Wrong.
The only people who are allowed to view data that I send are myself and the person I'm sending it to.
That's why encryption is necessary.
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Hangmn
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said by brianiscool :Lets just start encrypting all of our data. Thats EXACTLY what we should do, with bullshit like the patriot act and unfettered access for law enforcement, that my friends shall be the wave of the future...this is only the beginning.
I don,t need to be doing wrong to want privacy..it is MY DIVINE RIGHT as an AMERICAN CITIZEN...are you familiar with a little document know as the CONSTITUTION???
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Asmodeus
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Spring Valley, CA
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said by brianiscool :If you have nothing to hide don't encrypt your data. that's a pretty dopey statement considering the level of packet snooping that takes place on a daily basis... encryption isn't just about bittorrent... it's about keeping data safe and away from the prying eyes of people with the ability to cause you grief... that whole "if you have nothing to hide" statement is crap and needs to be dropped wholesale... it may have worked at one time, but not anymore... the sheer amount of data that flows on a daily basis begs that you hide and encrypt as much data as you possibly can... the fact that data isn't already defacto encrypted is a mystery to me considering the state of the net these days... and it won't get better as long as the net is a bleeding-edge frontier of the wild bit west... |
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GOLFnSUN
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said by SinNombre :even if you aren't trying to "hide" something, alot of companies (read the freakin article, first) limit torrents for completely arbitrary reasons, anyway. It is not completely arbitrary. They do it because the bittorrent users flood upstream bandwidth and negatively impact other users trying to use limited resources. The only solutions are:
1 - ISPs upgrade infrastructure to provide more upstream bandwidth. But that cost lots of money and WILL significantly increase rates for all users.
2 - block bittorrent traffic so the upgrades aren't necessary.
3 - and my personal favorite - charge mucho extra dollars for those users eating up upstream bandwidth beyond some floor that gets 90% of the users no cost increase, but slaps big charges on the heavy users(worst 10%). They then underwrite the infrastructure upgrade costs.
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Trinijoy
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Excuse me?
We have the right to have privacy at our house and ESPECIALLY at our computer. This is not "1984". If I want to encrypt my data or other data for security purposes I WILL. No matter if it's document files that are important or pictures from my wedding. There are too many hackers out there now who will do anything to anyone's computer. And there are MANY MANY legal Torrents out there for just Movie trailers, files. So they throttle bad torrents, they throttle good. Where does it end? |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
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Don't forget online games which use bittorrent. If your games uses it and your ISP throttles it, your games updates take weeks instead of minutes.
It's anti competitive business at it's finest. Cripple any service that uses bittorrent and (if net neutrality fails) offer them a premium service that allows all of the ISPs customers to download games updates at full speed. |
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brianiscool
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Miami, FL | Companies like Blizzard should not offer bitorrent in the first place. People are paying a lot of money per month and the company should provide direct download access instead for the patches. |
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BIGMIKE
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said by Hangmn :said by brianiscool :Lets just start encrypting all of our data. Thats EXACTLY what we should do, with bullshit like the patriot act and unfettered access for law enforcement, that my friends shall be the wave of the future...this is only the beginning. I don,t need to be doing wrong to want privacy..it is MY DIVINE RIGHT as an AMERICAN CITIZEN...are you familiar with a little document know as the CONSTITUTION??? Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
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If you have nothing to hide don't encrypt your data.
You have failed to understand the real problem.
First FTP, POP, and TELNET do not by default encrypt passwords and therefore bad people, not just governments, exploit that traffic to collect user's account information. So you see that encryption is used for good as well as bad. Encryption in and of itself does not indicate intent.
Second it is unfortunate that so many childish US citizens fail to grok the idea that NSA is not their worst enemy. Their worst enemy is the nation that *IS* monitoring all traffic at their ISPs gateway router. How it that accomplished? Simple really someone in India, Pakistan, Korea, China, or God knows where, brute forces an SSH account on a server local to your ISPs backbone. Then they own that server. Then they monitor all communications on that network to collect account information on other networks, to collect tidbits in E-Mail, and to watch selected individuals for whatever purposes. You see while you fear NSA because they *appear* to break the rules, you fail to realize that other governments *have no rules*. You are free to call this paranoia as you wish.
It has been my opinion for many years, even before I left the SIGINT community that all links should be encrypted at all times. I still stand by that opinion and I should add that the *ONLY* reason not to encrypt it because you want the information disseminated to the largest possible audience.
Just my two... |
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said by brianiscool :If you have nothing to hide don't encrypt your data. This statement enlightened me.
Never again will I seek privacy, as it seems to've been added to the eight deadly sins.
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