captokita
Premium
join:2005-02-22
Calabash, NC | What a suuurrrrprise!
NOT!
C'mon, the harder you make it - the more hackers will go at it. All you have to say is "Unbreakable" and someone will break it.  |
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kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·1and1
 ·Cox HSI
| ALL DRM is NEVER totally secure. My Mac and PC has a media player on each that will import ANY format and ignores the DRM.
Case in Point:
U2's last album.
Microsoft decided this CD, How to Make an Atomic Bomb, could burn 2 times to a CD. So, I imported it into my media player (not WMP) and it allows UNLIMITED burning.
This ticks me off:
Why do online Video services really think I'm going to pay them $14.99 for a lousy contrived DVD of a movie or $1.99 for a music video?
Movielink is so dumb. You can keep the copy of the movie for 30 days but can only watch it ONCE every 24 hours. That is stupid.
Quicktime has HD.264 format. Why don't these idiots make music videos and movies in THAT format? Or DIVX?
On my cable service, On-Demand is DVD quality and I record the movie right to a DVD as I watch it. NO DRM, No Hassels, and, if there is a problem, I can buy it again, call Cox, and get a credit for the first one no questions asked.
For all the illegal downloaders, if you get sued, tough. You broke the law.
BUT:
If I pay for it, I should be able to use it for personal use on my DVD player, computer, car CD player, my music/movie player with the 60 gig HD (No, it is not an iPod) etc. however I wish.
Things they need to do:
1. Make the music download perfect without stupid requirements. iTunes and the rest provide sucky music that comes no where close to the CD you buy.
2. Videos suck worse. Why not QT HD.264 format or DIVX?
Why people pay $.99 for iTunes that sucks compared to the CD version I have no clue.
Why not all MP3s in 256kbps and all WMA in 192kbps? Anything else is a total ripoff. And, who is to blame? The 100 million idiots that bought music from iTunes!
If they would have said, "No! Make it 256kbps and I'll bite or NO iTunes," we wouldn't have crappy music at ridiculous prices and idiots stealing everything all over the place. |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| said by kyramilan  :Why people pay $.99 for iTunes that sucks compared to the CD version I have no clue. Basically, they're paying for the convenience of getting one song when they might not want all of the songs on the CD. However, I agree with you that it is a ripoff when the song you buy comes with a ton of restrictions. I recently purchased 4 songs from the Barenaked Ladies online shop. The songs were in MP3 format, $0.99 each and didn't have any DRM built into them. I was completely satisfied with my purchase and would buy from them again.
said by kyramilan :Why not all MP3s in 256kbps and all WMA in 192kbps? Anything else is a total ripoff. And, who is to blame? The 100 million idiots that bought music from iTunes! Actually, I'd like to see something along the lines of AllOfMP3.com. You can pay $0.99 for a 192kbps, non-DRM-ed MP3, or you can opt to pay a bit more and get a higher bitrate. Of course, it won't happen because the RIAA is completely convinced that no-DRM equals instant piracy. What they don't see is that the pirates are already breaking the DRM (or simply ripping the CDs to MP3) releasing songs unencumbered by DRM will give legitimate consumers more power (and thus more incentive to buy) while not really helping pirates that much. |
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captokita
Premium
join:2005-02-22
Calabash, NC
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said by kyramilan :If I pay for it, I should be able to use it for personal use on my DVD player, computer, car CD player, my music/movie player with the 60 gig HD (No, it is not an iPod) etc. however I wish. Why people pay $.99 for iTunes that sucks compared to the CD version I have no clue. Why not all MP3s in 256kbps and all WMA in 192kbps? Anything else is a total ripoff. And, who is to blame? The 100 million idiots that bought music from iTunes! If they would have said, "No! Make it 256kbps and I'll bite or NO iTunes," we wouldn't have crappy music at ridiculous prices and idiots stealing everything all over the place. I'll agree with you there, I think you should be able to listen to/ watch something you PAID for anywhere, anytime.
As for the .99 iTunes - I've never used them, but I don't have an iPod - What's even worse than this, is that people will pay $4 - $5 (or more!) on a stupid ringtone of a song. That's a 20 second CLIP for cryin out loud!!!!! Talk about stupid.
But I'll agree with you, if the downloads were CD-quality, and priced right, .99 per song IS reasonable, they could do better business... not that business is hurting on iTunes - However, even if the song was .01, someone would download it for free via torrent/p2p.
Sorry this post strayed a bit OT. |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
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said by kyramilan :ALL DRM is NEVER totally secure. My Mac and PC has a media player on each that will import ANY format and ignores the DRM. Case in Point: U2's last album. Microsoft decided this CD, How to Make an Atomic Bomb, could burn 2 times to a CD. So, I imported it into my media player (not WMP) and it allows UNLIMITED burning. This ticks me off: What Microsoft OS decided to limit your CD or was it Zune?
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power. |
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kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
·Verizon Online DSL
·1and1
·Cox HSI
| said by guitarzan :said by kyramilan :ALL DRM is NEVER totally secure. My Mac and PC has a media player on each that will import ANY format and ignores the DRM. Case in Point: U2's last album. Microsoft decided this CD, How to Make an Atomic Bomb, could burn 2 times to a CD. So, I imported it into my media player (not WMP) and it allows UNLIMITED burning. This ticks me off: What Microsoft OS decided to limit your CD or was it Zune? Windows Media Player 9! Yes, it did on U2's CD.
The Zune is the worst, ugliest piece of crap I've ever seen.
I have the Creative Zen M: 60 gig player. Creative's software, for some reason, just eliminates DRM when it imports songs.
The sofware on my Mac shall remain anonymous. |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| said by kyramilan :Windows Media Player 9! Yes, it did on U2's CD. The Zune is the worst, ugliest piece of crap I've ever seen. I have the Creative Zen M: 60 gig player. Creative's software, for some reason, just eliminates DRM when it imports songs. Have you turned off the options>privacy> import song information turned off, when using Windows Media Player 9?
Agreed the Zune looks as if its a brown turd. The logo should read: "chit for sure"
I recall a co-worker who made his own mp3 player, using an old Pentium 233 mhz. A power inverter for use in his car. Dos 3.11 ? An AT keyboard, did some soldiering for speaker jacks and used a 20 gig HDD. Plugged the old computer into the cigarette lighter. It worked & was portable !!
Some details are omitted because of faulty memory
It was the coolest thing I ever saw, at that time.
He got the plans off the net, for the life of me. I can't remember the kits name or where to find it.
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power. |
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operagost
join:1999-08-02
Phoenixville, PA
| Maybe you mean Windows 3.11? No DOS 3.11 ever existed. And I doubt that, because DOS 6.x only supported FAT16 with 2 GB partitions. He would have had to split that into 10 partitions and I'm not sure the hassle of setting up a player to shuffle with that is worth it. |
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jarthur31
join:2006-04-14
Carlsbad, NM | reply to kyramilan
Are you American? 
Or Human for that matter?
You make too much sense buddy.
The RIAA and MPAA must be socialists/nazis. |
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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
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That's it, Operagost, it was either DOS 6.1 or 6.2. I don't remember if that kit came with a software cd or not, it probably was not a 20 gig HDD, maybe an old 5-10 gig instead?
The tower didn't have a mouse, nor did it have a cd-ROM. The HDD would get pulled and then slaved to his work computer to load up mp3's. This was way back when Napster first started. The PC repair shop did have a cable connection  It was faster than dial up, yet slow compared to today's BB speed.
IF, I recall correctly win 98, was becoming the main OS. The shops server might have been NT.
I have been wanting to use an old PC, I have stuffed into my storage shed to build a mp3 player like that. Google should turn up something.
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power. |
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jeisenberg
New Year's Eve
join:2001-07-06
Windsor, ON | reply to operagost
Actually, there was a DOS 3.11, but that's irrelevant to this thread. |
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Count Zero
MD2Be
Premium
join:2007-01-18
Warner Robins, GA | reply to kyramilan
iTunes does sell it's videos in H.264. The music quality isn't that bad for most "modern" music IMHO, but certainly isn't optimal for some of the instrumental masterpieces. |
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