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morbo
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reply to backness
Re: Government is not the answer.

his answer? just keep bugging them! eventually they will HAVE to respond to him.

never underestimate the power of grandiose thinking...

backness

join:2005-07-08
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reply to EngineerDave
well I'm fairly sure that if you were an upstart company who had invested your life savings in your e-business, you would have a slightly different opinion about this matter. With no neutrality, your site could be blocked or slowed to the point of being useless based only on the fact that your product or service competes directly with a company that has the resources to pay the extortion.

EngineerDave

join:2001-08-27
Hattiesburg, MS

reply to morbo
Again, if it was a big enough problem for me and I had no other provider to choose, I would harass them everyday until the situation was rectified. If there are enough people complaining, they will rectify the situation. The majority of consumers will be complaining to their only provider if it is as big of a problem as the network neutrality crowd claims it could be. I think the majority of consumers want a reliable product at a reasonable price. Also, I don't think adding the government in the mix is a good means of achieving either.


morbo
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hilarious. yes, tell us more about how you bugging the crap out of them will make them change their national policy of screwing over consumers and ecommerce with their net domination policy. wait--wait--let me get comfortable. ok.

ross

join:2000-08-16
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reply to EngineerDave
said by EngineerDave See Profile :

Well, I would have to evaluate how big of an issue I have with said provider. If I truely have only one choice for broadband, and they aren't offering what I want, I suppose I would make a part-time job of bugging the crap out of them until they rectify the situation (i.e. call them, email, write letters). What would you do?
Hmmm, you buggin' them, while they're really buggin' you...that's alot o'buggin! Bah, humbug.

EngineerDave

join:2001-08-27
Hattiesburg, MS

reply to envoid
Well, I would have to evaluate how big of an issue I have with said provider. If I truely have only one choice for broadband, and they aren't offering what I want, I suppose I would make a part-time job of bugging the crap out of them until they rectify the situation (i.e. call them, email, write letters). What would you do?


envoid

join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA
reply to EngineerDave
True, best way to get at them is through their pocketbooks, but what if you have no choice and either go with them or have no broadband/Internet access?

EngineerDave

join:2001-08-27
Hattiesburg, MS

reply to major marco
Troll,

I don't see how your response has anything to do with net neutrality. The best way to make an impact with a corporation is through their pocketbook. If business slows, obviously, they are going to take measures to remedy the problem. It's simple. My ISP and/or telco and/or cable company is interfering with my VOIP, I get another provider. If it is as big of a problem as you think it is, the providers will lose customers very quickly.


major marco
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reply to EngineerDave
said by EngineerDave See Profile :

I am positive that I know plenty about net neutrality. I also know that you should change your signature to "The Troll." Take your socialism and shove it.
Did you come up with that all by yourself. Or did you have check the TPM o'the day on Fox and/or Crush Lardbaugh? Poof. Dave the tech is no more.
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EngineerDave

join:2001-08-27
Hattiesburg, MS
reply to major marco
I am positive that I know plenty about net neutrality. I also know that you should change your signature to "The Troll." Take your socialism and shove it.


major marco
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reply to EngineerDave
said by EngineerDave See Profile :

Your notion that the government is the answer to all your problems is "spectacularly breathtaking."

Yeah, government knows how to get things done in an efficient manner. That is freaking hilarious. If you're not happy with the policies of your provider, choose another one. Get a clue, buddy.
All my problems? Um, no, Dave. The discussion here is Network Neutrality. Period. Go back and reread the title of this thread and ensuing commentary. I'll wait.

Secondly, your ISP has zip to do with NN. If telcos & cable cos. et al. control the pipes as to what content consumers see, the ISP will be the very least of your worries. Try educating yourself with the discussion at hand before you chime in with ignorant comments. Buddy.
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EngineerDave

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reply to major marco
said by major marco See Profile :

said by Alpine See Profile :

Pure speculation, which is all the net-neutrality "problem" is these days.

Can we stop the whining until there's actually a problem? That'd just be great (even though I know it's a pipe dream...)

Adam
Right. Pure whining and no problem whatsoever. Let's just wait until after the telcos and/or cable cos. start extorting money for unimpeded content on the Net, and then we can worry about it. The subject matter is just all hypothetical anyway. I don't mind telling you, Adam, that ignorance like yours is spectacularly breathtaking. Have you ever actually had any thoughts independent of Fox News?
Your notion that the government is the answer to all your problems is "spectacularly breathtaking." Yeah, government knows how to get things done in an efficient manner. That is freaking hilarious. If you're not happy with the policies of your provider, choose another one. Get a clue, buddy.
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