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1 edit | [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? I see the iPhone as a terrible contradiction to itself.
Apple touts it as "a breakthrough Internet communications device," yet it doesn't have any broadband capability except for WiFi.
WiFi...Big deal...my Windows Mobile-based phone has that, PLUS EVDO high speed data. Mobile broadband is where it's at for the true business person. Who wants to wait for attachments to download on a dial-up speed connection? This equals more time downloading over the network...which in turn means much worse battery life...
WiFi is NOT everywhere. True mobile broadband access (3g) is needed to make this device relevant, IMO.
Not to mention the fact that Cingular has the worst broadband coverage of any of the big mobile carriers currently...They've hardly deployed HSPDA! Making this an exclusive launch was a pretty stupid move. They have alienated themselves from so many potential customers. My entire company of IT consultants would have switched to the iPhone if it had high speed connectivity and was available on a CDMA carrier. | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? Well, there's not much 3G in the US as of yet so I don't see the problem really. That and most 3G phones have even worse battery life(from what I hear) than the iPhone reports to have. I'm sure when they bring it to Europe and Asia it'll probably be 3G. To compete in Asia they'll have to because all their phones are light years ahead of the North American phones. | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by yabos  :Well, there's not much 3G in the US as of yet so I don't see the problem really. That and most 3G phones have even worse battery life(from what I hear) than the iPhone reports to have. I'm sure when they bring it to Europe and Asia it'll probably be 3G. To compete in Asia they'll have to because all their phones are light years ahead of the North American phones. show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? I don't know from personal experience because A: I don't have a need for a smartphone yet and B: I live in Canada and the wireless providers rape us for data access. $100 for 100MB no joke.
But from what I've read a lot of places don't have 3G and all the people on slashdot saying they have the latest 3G smartphones say it's worse batterylife than the iPhone. I'm talking about it not even lasting a whole day without the battery dying. That's not really something I see Apple wanting to produce. Someone said on slashdot the Japanese phones are quite large compared to the little ones we have over here and I bet it has to do with the battery problem. They need a larger battery for 3G and Apple is all about slim form factors and elegant designs. | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by yabos :I don't know from personal experience because A: I don't have a need for a smartphone yet and B: I live in Canada and the wireless providers rape us for data access. $100 for 100MB no joke. But from what I've read a lot of places don't have 3G and all the people on slashdot saying they have the latest 3G smartphones say it's worse batterylife than the iPhone. I'm talking about it not even lasting a whole day without the battery dying. That's not really something I see Apple wanting to produce. Someone said on slashdot the Japanese phones are quite large compared to the little ones we have over here and I bet it has to do with the battery problem. They need a larger battery for 3G and Apple is all about slim form factors and elegant designs. that is simply not true. The difference in power consumption between HSPDA/EDGE chips is marginal. The difference in time that they would have to stay connected to the network to download a file DOES make a big difference in battery life.
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Ingersoll, ON | Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? I'm going from what I've read and many people saying on slashdot that they have some of the 3G phones and they last less than a day on standby. So either the phone sucks(probably) or it has to do with the 3G | |
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| said by MarkyD :show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The BlackBerry Pearl, introduced in September, only supports EDGE speeds. | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by Eldon :said by MarkyD :show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The BlackBerry Pearl, introduced in September, only supports EDGE speeds. good point. That is one. ANything running windows mobile released recently without high speed data? I'd say that's more of a competitor to the iPhone than the blackberry is...
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by MarkyD :said by Eldon :said by MarkyD :show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The BlackBerry Pearl, introduced in September, only supports EDGE speeds. good point. That is one. ANything running windows mobile released recently without high speed data? I'd say that's more of a competitor to the iPhone than the blackberry is... I beg to differ, the BB Pearl feature/functionality lines up pretty well with the iPhone, except no WiFi and it has a suretype keyboard rather than touchscreen (which is probably better anyway). Oh, and you can get one now, even under a 1 year contract, for 1/2 the price.
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2 edits | Ok, here is my reasoning why it is not 3G capable, UMTS, and HSDPA or just about any CDMA derivatives do not get as good battery life as a GSM counter part. | |
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| said by MarkyD :said by yabos :Well, there's not much 3G in the US as of yet so I don't see the problem really. That and most 3G phones have even worse battery life(from what I hear) than the iPhone reports to have. I'm sure when they bring it to Europe and Asia it'll probably be 3G. To compete in Asia they'll have to because all their phones are light years ahead of the North American phones. show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The samsung blackjack
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by hkellogg :said by MarkyD :said by yabos :Well, there's not much 3G in the US as of yet so I don't see the problem really. That and most 3G phones have even worse battery life(from what I hear) than the iPhone reports to have. I'm sure when they bring it to Europe and Asia it'll probably be 3G. To compete in Asia they'll have to because all their phones are light years ahead of the North American phones. show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The samsung blackjack The Blackjack has HSPDA on Cingular. | |
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| I don't agree with you, I'm extensively using a Treo 650 and just use it to view/reply to important emails. Setup in 30 seconds to talk with Exchange server via ActiveSync and no problems syncing emails and calendar. Same easy setup for secure pop/stmp email accounts. I don't bother downloading attachments, if it is important I'll call the sender and set expectations as to when I can read the email. Everyone in business that needs immediate access to files has a cellular modem in their laptop. On my Cingular Treo 650 Google maps loads fast enough and I can see traffic problems and find restaurants and Starbucks. My wife's Sprint Treo 700 isn't that much faster. Guess I'm not a "true business person" even though I do million dollar deals?! So much whining, although I understand the frustration if you are married to CDMA because Windows mobile phones suck and the Palm isn't much better compared to the iPhone.
While cdma offers some technical advantages, GSM has 90% market share new digital subs worldwide. The 3G networks are rolling out now and will catch up to CDMA soon.
GSM Worldwide: In the 12 months from Q2 2005 to Q2 2006, the GSM family of technologies gained nearly 500 million new customers worldwide, including 41 million new UMTS 3G customers. This number represents more than 10 times the growth of CDMA, which added 45 million new customers. GSM again added more new customers in a year than the total subscriber base of all other mobile digital technologies. In June 2006, the industry milestone of 2 billion GSM subscriptions worldwide was reached, including subscriptions to UMTS at 70 million, and in the past year, new GSM subscriptions accounted for more than 90 percent of all net new digital wireless customers.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? Just because you don't use your phone for downloading attachments and files does not mean other people don't. I know a lot of people with smart phones who do a whole lot of attachment downloading/viewing on their phones.
Again, what's the point of introducing a new "smartphone" that can't even access next gen data services? Phones that are 1/4 the price have EVDO/HSPDA built in. It just doesn't make any sense.
Again, just because YOU may not have a use for it doesn't mean the majority of people with a smartphone don't.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by bbarrera :said by MarkyD :Again, just because YOU may not have a use for it doesn't mean the majority of people with a smartphone don't. This thread is headed in the same direction as 'upgrading teh video' threads. Yeah, but can you play counter strike on the iPhone??
I just HAD to go there.......
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| said by bbarrera :I don't agree with you, I'm extensively using a Treo 650 and just use it to view/reply to important emails. Setup in 30 seconds to talk with Exchange server via ActiveSync and no problems syncing emails and calendar. How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server?
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by 93254336 :How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server? - Dan I don't think one can.
only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by MarkyD :I don't think one can. only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile. Think again. "True Exchange integration like Windows Mobile" is accomplished using ActiveSync, and Treo has ActiveSync.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by bbarrera :said by MarkyD :I don't think one can. only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile. Think again. "True Exchange integration like Windows Mobile" is accomplished using ActiveSync, and Treo has ActiveSync. » www.microsoft.com/technet/prodte···faq.mspx I know Treo has activesync...I was referring to the iPhone.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? Dude, don't even bother trying here it's a waste of your time and I am telling you this from experience. Anyone who does buy a phone for it's specifications will always be the individual who will get more bang for his buck. If these people want to waste 600 dollars like water let them go ahead.
I rather have that money in my pocket and stick it into a savings account or donate some of that to charity for the march of dimes.
My SCP-8400 costed me less than 100 dollars after the mail in rebate, I am really not bothered by it all although my phone is not a Rev.A capable phone it's still a EV-DO phone with decent speeds that I use with my Macbook over Bluetooth.
Of course since some of these guys have stocks from Apple they are gonna try to shove everything they can to make the company look good so there stock price can increase and make more money.
But to be very clear on one thing, you buy first from your needs and then later your wants. I found out I saved myself a few hundred dollars per month staying away from the things I want and just getting the stuff I need and have stuck that money into a ING Direct account with a 4.5%APY
Eventually I began going deeper into bargains and found the type of Gatorade you make with by dumping the mix. Turns out if I bought that for 7 dollars I get 6 gallons. But 2 gallon Gatorade made costed me the same price.
Of course I bought the one you create and I have yet to buy another one of those things and have not been to the grocery store in two weeks.
But back to the topic and point, the iPhone is a revolutionary for it's UI but it's specs and as a internet communications device pales in comparison.
I was expecting ichat like interface where the camera is on the front of the phone or a swivel type camera and you can do video conferencing with your friends over a HSDPA or EV-DO network, because that would make sense of course Motorola's Ojo was first but this right here is a mobile device of it's kind and that what would make the iPhone revolutionary.
Considering that Seagate now has released it's 1.8in" HD's with around 40GB and even 60GB storage capacity there is really no execuse for why the iPhone to be what it is and for it's price.
Also the problem with the stylus was fixed a long time ago, it's called a string attached to the pen and the device, I wonder how people can now sign stuff on there phone as that is quite helpful considering Nextel sold a wireless credit card type device as well.
I can also go into talks about how people complain about Walkie talkies not being able to reach 12 miles as advertised because there are using the FRS frequency and not the GMRS frequency and on top of that don't know they require a license that costs 86 dollars for five year's to do so. | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? I played soccer since I was a kid and every now and then go out and do some exercises and I make the Gatorade at home, stick it in a water bottle with ice and head out to run or play some football these days.
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| said by MarkyD :said by 93254336 :How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server? - Dan I don't think one can. only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile. I don't know about syncing, but didn't Jobs say that the iPhone would handle POP, IMAP and Exchange? I'm not going to rewatch the 2 hour presentation, but I thought I heard that.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by bjf123 :said by MarkyD :said by 93254336 :How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server? - Dan I don't think one can. only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile. I don't know about syncing, but didn't Jobs say that the iPhone would handle POP, IMAP and Exchange? I'm not going to rewatch the 2 hour presentation, but I thought I heard that. I think what he said was "There's a setup in Exchange that lets you do IMAP" or something to that effect. I think he's basically saying exchange servers can sync if they turn on the IMAP function. | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by tommy3rd : I think he's basically saying exchange servers can sync if they turn on the IMAP function. yeah, and how many sys admins are going to do that just for an iPhone? I know we wont be. hell, we wont even be allowing this little security breach into the corporate environment.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by inteller :said by tommy3rd : I think he's basically saying exchange servers can sync if they turn on the IMAP function. yeah, and how many sys admins are going to do that just for an iPhone? I know we wont be. hell, we wont even be allowing this little security breach into the corporate environment. I think the iPhone is kind of silly at this point in time, despite the technological advances, especially with the UI and functionality. However, how is it a security breach? That makes no sense unless I'm missing something.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by MarkyD :said by inteller :said by tommy3rd : I think he's basically saying exchange servers can sync if they turn on the IMAP function. yeah, and how many sys admins are going to do that just for an iPhone? I know we wont be. hell, we wont even be allowing this little security breach into the corporate environment. That makes no sense unless I'm missing something. The blatant trolling?
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| said by inteller : hell, we wont even be allowing this little security breach into the corporate environment. Eh? It's not even out and it's already a "security breach"? It's not a Microsoft product you know... | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by JAXx :- "Typing is difficult" ...iPhone is not open to 3rd party development at this time. Only Apple is providing (built-in) applications for the device. The whole thread with comments at » forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=268228 That's disappointing. I was all set to get an iphone in June, but after finding that it doesn't do 3G and now this, it makes me pause. I think I'll wait for the reviews to come out first before jumping on this.
If I wanted a totally locked down phone, I'd just stay with Verizon (I love how they lock down bluetooth, put a crappy UI on the phone, etc. etc.). But at least with VZW I have high speed access with my piddly Razr that came out what, a year ago or more on VZW's network? | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by CPM :Iphone.I rather wait, like the other apple phone, apple try to do. What was the name of that phone again??? My point . I think your message is still encrypted.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? See my post here: »Re: The Official MacWorld SF 2007 Discussion Thread
It is weird that 3G is already with Cingular and Apple did not go with it. I am more likely thinking this is a hold back from Cingular as the Treo 750 was going to ship now with no HSDPA but get an soft-upgrade this year by June. Who knows, David Pogue did say the phone he played with was pre-production, so we still have not seen the shipping phone.
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| The phone would be sweet if it was at the $299 point. The "new" technology is rather a weak arguement to spend $500-600 in contract. What I want to know...how much is it out of contract for existing customers?
The iPhone CAN be breakthrough but it is not. I still may get one though...would make a nice communicator.
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| I couldn't agree with Marky D. iphone looks real sweet and should be a huge hit with the younger crowd but not much else.
No high speed means not tethering a laptop either. I have a 3G EVDO and the battery life is 1 1/2 to 2 days. I use it quite extensively.
I don't think Apple's target market for this is business/power user.
I think it's the 14-22 year old crowd.
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$4-500 for the phone + a 2 year contact. What's the cost per month for unlimited use of all the features the phone can supply? Is it worth it? Only you travelin' salesmen can answer that.
My crappy old, unlocked, razr with Opera can do email and surf the web at a whopping 350kps with a pay as you go plan from cingular. Point is, do I want to do it on a 3 or 4" screen - not likely. | |
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| Bah - this was the first reaction to iPod when it came out - too expensive, just another mp3 player.
What do you think about Jobs' argument that the most popular iPod costs $199 and the average smart phone (which does not do iPod) is about $299, so a logical price for the iPhone is $499? And that is assuming that the iPhone does the smart functions as crappily as the other smart phones.
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1 edit | Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? I don't know about others, but I will get one as soon as version 2 (or rev A) comes out, even at the expense of a $200 early termination fee w/ my current carrier. I hope an Apple portable bluetooth keyboard accessory will be released to accompany iPhone in June, that should save me from carrying my Powerbook most the time.
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| said by Johnny :Bah - this was the first reaction to iPod when it came out - too expensive, just another mp3 player. What do you think about Jobs' argument that the most popular iPod costs $199 and the average smart phone (which does not do iPod) is about $299, so a logical price for the iPhone is $499? And that is assuming that the iPhone does the smart functions as crappily as the other smart phones. I actually don't think the price is unreasonable at ALL. I paid $499 for my Windows Mobile based PPC 6700 in March, and it's a piece of crap. At least it has EVDO and I don't have to wait 5 minutes for 10 megs worth of attachments to download. Aye, the price is VERY reasonable for what you get, even with the exclusion of HSPDA.
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| said by Johnny :Bah - this was the first reaction to iPod when it came out - too expensive, just another mp3 player. What do you think about Jobs' argument that the most popular iPod costs $199 and the average smart phone (which does not do iPod) is about $299, so a logical price for the iPhone is $499? And that is assuming that the iPhone does the smart functions as crappily as the other smart phones. I actually don't think the price is unreasonable at ALL. I paid $499 for my Windows Mobile based PPC 6700 in March, and it's a piece of crap. At least it has EVDO and I don't have to wait 5 minutes for 10 megs worth of attachments to download. Aye, the price is VERY reasonable for what you get, even with the exclusion of HSDPA.
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1 edit | said by MarkyD :Not to mention the fact that Cingular has the worst broadband coverage of any of the big mobile carriers currently...They've hardly deployed HSPDA! Making this an exclusive launch was a pretty stupid move. They have alienated themselves from so many potential customers. My entire company of IT consultants would have switched to the iPhone if it had high speed connectivity and was available on a CDMA carrier. Cingular has one thing your beloved CDMA carriers dont, the SIM card. People will get these things, unlock them, and put them on other GSM networks. Verlosen, Spent, and Awwhell can't do this, nor do they allow phones from outside networks.
HSDPA deployment is as wide as some EV-DO rev A deployments, which is the closest kludge CDMA carriers can come to the speed of HSDPA. Nevermind the fact that HSDPA tops out 14.4Mbps....EV-DO can hardly do that.
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by inteller :HSDPA deployment is as wide as some EV-DO rev A deployments, which is the closest kludge CDMA carriers can come to the speed of HSDPA. Nevermind the fact that HSDPA tops out 14.4Mbps....EV-DO can hardly do that. in the US? I can't even find a national level coverage map for HSDPA through Cingular. Only local-level maps. All I know is that EVDO Rev. A is becoming commonplace...People are seeing real world speeds of around 1.8 down/768 up or so. At least, that's what my tests on Verizon Wireless EVDO Rev. A here in El Paso show on a consistent basis.
Oh, and HSDPA does not max out at 14.4mbps here in the states. It probably won't for a long, long time considering the lack of deployment from Cingular. What a worthless carrier.
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cbrigante2
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North Aurora, IL | Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? I really look at this phone as a personal type cell phone. It doesn't strike me as a business/corporate type cell phone yet. I think it is a great phone, but not the first one that comes to mind when thinking of a business device. | |
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1 edit | Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by cbrigante2 :I really look at this phone as a personal type cell phone. It doesn't strike me as a business/corporate type cell phone yet. I think it is a great phone, but not the first one that comes to mind when thinking of a business device. I agree. I like it is a personal phone/pda/mp3/bb type device. I do expect it to do well among the 21-35 age demographic. A lot of individuals over 35 are already using BBs quite a bit for personal and business. | |
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? Ok Apple, you reading this thread?
You've got a few months (after you've gotten FCC approval and sorted out what the real name of this product will be) to solve ALL of your technological issues/complaints with this device.
Oh, and don't forget to design a nice chamois to keep the screen clean from all the face oil and fingerprints it will be quickly layered in.
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2 edits | I say whats the point in a phone that looks like a dell axim?
Just wait for an Axim Phone.
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cbrigante2
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? said by insomniac84 :I say whats the point in a phone that looks like a dell axim? Just wait for an Axim Phone. 3rd party apps welcome. There already is an Axim Phone. It's any device running Windows Mobile. I have one, and while it gets the job done, it's by no means the ideal. | |
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GilbertMark
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| Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data? Maybe it would have been better had Apple gone the MVNO? route. They could have made a CDMA and GSM version. Sell the GSMs unlocked, and you take it to whoever you want.
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cybergoober
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Newport News, VA | Didn't Steve even say in the keynote that things like 3G would be added in the future? | |
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Tommyastro
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Poughkeepsie, NY | I LOVE Apple stuff but the iPhone does NOT interest me at all. I don't need a phone that does all that crap. My Virgin mobile is just fine. I hardly use a cell phone anyway. I'm more interested in COMPUTER stuff APPLE! WTF???
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Paladin
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| Allegedly, there's a software upgrade that will enable HSDPA on these phones. Can't confirm it though, it's strictly Internet rumor.
Also, let's not forget we're having a debate over vaporware, the iPhone isn't out yet.
As far as HSDPA coverage, that's growing by the day. Some places on the Cingular coverage viewer are not updated yet.
»www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/
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1 edit | Rumor has it that the 3G iPhone could not be announced due to pending FCC review. I for one, will buy an iPhone, it does what I need. I am not intending to use it for work. I just want a better way to interact with my data on my computer. My one requirement is that it have good reception on Cingulars' network.
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[edit] Have you guys/gals looked at the Apple employment pages? There are lots of opening in the iPhone category. Check it out.
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