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Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data?
I don't agree with you, I'm extensively using a Treo 650 and just use it to view/reply to important emails. Setup in 30 seconds to talk with Exchange server via ActiveSync and no problems syncing emails and calendar. Same easy setup for secure pop/stmp email accounts. I don't bother downloading attachments, if it is important I'll call the sender and set expectations as to when I can read the email. Everyone in business that needs immediate access to files has a cellular modem in their laptop. On my Cingular Treo 650 Google maps loads fast enough and I can see traffic problems and find restaurants and Starbucks. My wife's Sprint Treo 700 isn't that much faster. Guess I'm not a "true business person" even though I do million dollar deals?! So much whining, although I understand the frustration if you are married to CDMA because Windows mobile phones suck and the Palm isn't much better compared to the iPhone.
While cdma offers some technical advantages, GSM has 90% market share new digital subs worldwide. The 3G networks are rolling out now and will catch up to CDMA soon.
GSM Worldwide: In the 12 months from Q2 2005 to Q2 2006, the GSM family of technologies gained nearly 500 million new customers worldwide, including 41 million new UMTS 3G customers. This number represents more than 10 times the growth of CDMA, which added 45 million new customers. GSM again added more new customers in a year than the total subscriber base of all other mobile digital technologies. In June 2006, the industry milestone of 2 billion GSM subscriptions worldwide was reached, including subscriptions to UMTS at 70 million, and in the past year, new GSM subscriptions accounted for more than 90 percent of all net new digital wireless customers.
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MarkyD
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| Just because you don't use your phone for downloading attachments and files does not mean other people don't. I know a lot of people with smart phones who do a whole lot of attachment downloading/viewing on their phones.
Again, what's the point of introducing a new "smartphone" that can't even access next gen data services? Phones that are 1/4 the price have EVDO/HSPDA built in. It just doesn't make any sense.
Again, just because YOU may not have a use for it doesn't mean the majority of people with a smartphone don't.
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bbarrera
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said by bbarrera  :I don't agree with you, I'm extensively using a Treo 650 and just use it to view/reply to important emails. Setup in 30 seconds to talk with Exchange server via ActiveSync and no problems syncing emails and calendar. How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server?
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bbarrera
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said by MarkyD :Again, just because YOU may not have a use for it doesn't mean the majority of people with a smartphone don't. This thread is headed in the same direction as 'upgrading teh video' threads. |
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said by 93254336 :How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server? - Dan I don't think one can.
only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile.
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bbarrera
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said by 93254336 :said by bbarrera :I don't agree with you, I'm extensively using a Treo 650 and just use it to view/reply to important emails. Setup in 30 seconds to talk with Exchange server via ActiveSync and no problems syncing emails and calendar. How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server? Apple or Cingular would need to develop an ActiveSync or MAPI client. Same thing Palm did (they did ActiveSync). The IT guy at work didn't believe my Treo650 could sync email and calendar over-the-air, he honestly believes you need a Windows mobile phone to do that. All I needed was the URL for our Outlook Web Access and my username/password, 30 seconds later I was syncing. |
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bbarrera
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said by MarkyD :I don't think one can. only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile. Think again. "True Exchange integration like Windows Mobile" is accomplished using ActiveSync, and Treo has ActiveSync.
»www.microsoft.com/technet/prodte···faq.mspx |
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said by MarkyD :said by 93254336 :How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server? - Dan I don't think one can. only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile. I don't know about syncing, but didn't Jobs say that the iPhone would handle POP, IMAP and Exchange? I'm not going to rewatch the 2 hour presentation, but I thought I heard that.
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said by bbarrera :said by MarkyD :I don't think one can. only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile. Think again. "True Exchange integration like Windows Mobile" is accomplished using ActiveSync, and Treo has ActiveSync. » www.microsoft.com/technet/prodte···faq.mspx I know Treo has activesync...I was referring to the iPhone.
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said by bbarrera :said by MarkyD :Again, just because YOU may not have a use for it doesn't mean the majority of people with a smartphone don't. This thread is headed in the same direction as 'upgrading teh video' threads. Yeah, but can you play counter strike on the iPhone??
I just HAD to go there.......
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Michieru2
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Dude, don't even bother trying here it's a waste of your time and I am telling you this from experience. Anyone who does buy a phone for it's specifications will always be the individual who will get more bang for his buck. If these people want to waste 600 dollars like water let them go ahead.
I rather have that money in my pocket and stick it into a savings account or donate some of that to charity for the march of dimes.
My SCP-8400 costed me less than 100 dollars after the mail in rebate, I am really not bothered by it all although my phone is not a Rev.A capable phone it's still a EV-DO phone with decent speeds that I use with my Macbook over Bluetooth.
Of course since some of these guys have stocks from Apple they are gonna try to shove everything they can to make the company look good so there stock price can increase and make more money.
But to be very clear on one thing, you buy first from your needs and then later your wants. I found out I saved myself a few hundred dollars per month staying away from the things I want and just getting the stuff I need and have stuck that money into a ING Direct account with a 4.5%APY
Eventually I began going deeper into bargains and found the type of Gatorade you make with by dumping the mix. Turns out if I bought that for 7 dollars I get 6 gallons. But 2 gallon Gatorade made costed me the same price.
Of course I bought the one you create and I have yet to buy another one of those things and have not been to the grocery store in two weeks.
But back to the topic and point, the iPhone is a revolutionary for it's UI but it's specs and as a internet communications device pales in comparison.
I was expecting ichat like interface where the camera is on the front of the phone or a swivel type camera and you can do video conferencing with your friends over a HSDPA or EV-DO network, because that would make sense of course Motorola's Ojo was first but this right here is a mobile device of it's kind and that what would make the iPhone revolutionary.
Considering that Seagate now has released it's 1.8in" HD's with around 40GB and even 60GB storage capacity there is really no execuse for why the iPhone to be what it is and for it's price.
Also the problem with the stylus was fixed a long time ago, it's called a string attached to the pen and the device, I wonder how people can now sign stuff on there phone as that is quite helpful considering Nextel sold a wireless credit card type device as well.
I can also go into talks about how people complain about Walkie talkies not being able to reach 12 miles as advertised because there are using the FRS frequency and not the GMRS frequency and on top of that don't know they require a license that costs 86 dollars for five year's to do so. |
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Eventually I began going deeper into bargains and found the type of Gatorade you make with by dumping the mix. Turns out if I bought that for 7 dollars I get 6 gallons. But 2 gallon Gatorade made costed me the same price.
damn, that is a lot Gatorade!
are you like, a coach or something?
What flavor?
personally I prefer koolaid..... |
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Michieru2
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| I played soccer since I was a kid and every now and then go out and do some exercises and I make the Gatorade at home, stick it in a water bottle with ice and head out to run or play some football these days.
Also never really liked koolaid and the flavor is citric. |
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tommy3rd
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said by bjf123 :said by MarkyD :said by 93254336 :How exactly would one go about syncing an iPhone to an Exchange server? - Dan I don't think one can. only IMAP/POP email...but no true Exchange integration like Windows Mobile. I don't know about syncing, but didn't Jobs say that the iPhone would handle POP, IMAP and Exchange? I'm not going to rewatch the 2 hour presentation, but I thought I heard that. I think what he said was "There's a setup in Exchange that lets you do IMAP" or something to that effect. I think he's basically saying exchange servers can sync if they turn on the IMAP function. |
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| said by tommy3rd : I think he's basically saying exchange servers can sync if they turn on the IMAP function. yeah, and how many sys admins are going to do that just for an iPhone? I know we wont be. hell, we wont even be allowing this little security breach into the corporate environment.
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MarkyD
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| said by inteller :said by tommy3rd : I think he's basically saying exchange servers can sync if they turn on the IMAP function. yeah, and how many sys admins are going to do that just for an iPhone? I know we wont be. hell, we wont even be allowing this little security breach into the corporate environment. I think the iPhone is kind of silly at this point in time, despite the technological advances, especially with the UI and functionality. However, how is it a security breach? That makes no sense unless I'm missing something.
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russotto
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said by inteller : hell, we wont even be allowing this little security breach into the corporate environment. Eh? It's not even out and it's already a "security breach"? It's not a Microsoft product you know... |
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said by MarkyD :said by inteller :said by tommy3rd : I think he's basically saying exchange servers can sync if they turn on the IMAP function. yeah, and how many sys admins are going to do that just for an iPhone? I know we wont be. hell, we wont even be allowing this little security breach into the corporate environment. That makes no sense unless I'm missing something. The blatant trolling?
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