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pfqdrx

join:2002-11-23
Whitehall, PA

reply to reub2000
Re: 50 million a year!

The worst part, in my mind, is that Beckham's deal will raise the retail prices of products advertised during games even for those customers that don't watch the games. Every large contract does this. I don't watch MLB or NBA games, but I help pay those players every time I go to the grocery store, buy gasoline, or have a beer. Only a total boycott of many products could get someone out of the loop.


CylonRed
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reply to soothsayer15
100 people won't make a difference - it would take 500-1K poeple to make a real difference and see a price change. Maybe more becuase the Red's are one of the cheapest teasm to see so they can't lower their prices much more.

I know I can't afford the games and I have none of those items basic phonmes for us and I don't pay more than $30 for jeans and $50 for tennis shoes.

soothsayer15

join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX

reply to reub2000
said by reub2000 See Profile :

said by Hall See Profile :

The end-result though is the average family often can't afford to go to a baseball game or football game anymore... Tickets up in the nose-bleed section for the Cincinnati Reds cost close to $15/each. A family of four is $45 ... plus parking ... and then you've got the "food and drinks". $4-5 for a beer or $3-4 for a soda. It can add up real quick !
That's because people are willing to pay that much to see a game.
Exactly. Like my economics professor in college said, goods and services are worth whatever someone is willing to pay.

If attendance at a Reds game dropped to 100 people a game, do you did they'd still charge that much? After the baseball strike in the 90's, seats were going for dirt cheap because Major League Baseball knew people were disgusted by rich people arguing over how to divide money. By as prices kept rising, people kept going. They will keep rising until people decide it's not worth the price.

BTW, I hear about these families that "can't afford it", but the kids have $70 jeans, $150 shoes, $50 shirts, and a fancy cell phone. All this while being driven around in the 12 mile per gallon SUV. Give me a break about can't afford. They'll all have iPhones in June.


reub2000
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reply to Hall
said by Hall See Profile :

The end-result though is the average family often can't afford to go to a baseball game or football game anymore... Tickets up in the nose-bleed section for the Cincinnati Reds cost close to $15/each. A family of four is $45 ... plus parking ... and then you've got the "food and drinks". $4-5 for a beer or $3-4 for a soda. It can add up real quick !
That's because people are willing to pay that much to see a game.
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reply to soothsayer15
The end-result though is the average family often can't afford to go to a baseball game or football game anymore... Tickets up in the nose-bleed section for the Cincinnati Reds cost close to $15/each. A family of four is $45 ... plus parking ... and then you've got the "food and drinks". $4-5 for a beer or $3-4 for a soda. It can add up real quick !
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soothsayer15

join:2002-03-01
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reply to DrModem
said by DrModem See Profile :

Heh, I think athletes get way too much money for what they do. And movie stars also. Really, is playing football or acting in front of a camera worth millions of dollars?
I hate when people say athletes get paid too much money, that's a foolish statement. They are the ones generating the revenue. Where should the money go? To the billionaire team owners? The money isn't coming to you. Get over it.

People hate people who have more than they do.


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reply to idlewillkill
said by idlewillkill See Profile :

... I question the assertion that volleyball has more participants than soccer.
The figures are old, and the poster questions their accuracy in several cases, on the original page below the graph. Many figures seemed overly optomistic, and some sources even agreed once questioned.

So, find some better figures.
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reply to Maccawolf
said by Maccawolf See Profile :

Could the soccer player you're referring to be David Beckham?????

He IS the best in the world you know. Besides, don't MOST top athletes in sports receive contracts for ung*dly amounts of money?
David Beckham is NOT the best in the world, my friend.

One name - Ronaldinho.


Grethor
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reply to DataDoc
It is about time badminton got some fucking respect.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
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reply to reub2000
Thats nothing, the US payed some Japan baseball player $50million JUST TO TALK TO HIM.

The world has its priorities mixed up thats for sure.


reub2000
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reply to DrModem
said by DrModem See Profile :

Heh, I think athletes get way too much money for what they do. And movie stars also. Really, is playing football or acting in front of a camera worth millions of dollars?
If the owner of the team can make millions in ticket sales, then yes playing football is worth millions of dollars.
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 reply to Reese1972
In the end, we all know the first game will be sold out. The question is, does Becks raise the level of play to continue bringing them back. Sure, you'll always have the die hards at the games, but can he bring some people to the stadium who wouldn't normally watch soccer. My guess is that all the teams that play the Galaxy at their respective stadiums will get a boost in attendance when he comes to town. I really do hope he succeeds in enhancing the game of soccer here.
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reply to M A R K
Hey now he counts Tom Cruise as a personal friend, so all you dissing David Beckham better beware the wrath of TC.

As for DB, he is known as one of the best right footed crossers and free-kick takers in the game. He went to Spain from the UK, and frankly he has done little since.

However the US does have a history of taking older star players and paying them for their name and the publicity they bring rather than their dwindling skills on the pitch.


M A R K
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reply to Reese1972
Some soccer player..
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idlewillkill
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reply to DataDoc
said by DataDoc See Profile :

said by Hall See Profile :

This is a surprise to most Americans, but soccer or football, is the most popular sport in the world. Soccer is played in literally every country in the world. You can't say that for football, baseball, or basketball...
Just to keep things rolling, here's some stats (circa 2002) as to what is the "most popular" sport.
Soccer is #4. It's probably really #2 or 3, judging from other information on that page.

Newer stats are welcome, please cite your sources.
That chart has to be messed. Hockey Canada estimates 2 million Canucks play hockey. »www.hockeycanada.ca/index.cfm/ci···id/1.htm
I daresay that number is conservative.
Add in the USA, Russia, Czech Republic, Sweden, et al, it's WAY over 3 million. By the same token, I question the assertion that volleyball has more participants than soccer.


viperpa33s
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reply to Reese1972
Some athletes are good but make the big money cause not only they are good but because people go and see them. If people would stop going to baseball games for example, just think how much these baseball players would be making.


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reply to DrModem
said by DrModem See Profile :

Heh, I think athletes get way too much money for what they do. And movie stars also. Really, is playing football or acting in front of a camera worth millions of dollars?
I agree and no!
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Maccawolf
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reply to DrModem
said by DrModem See Profile :

Heh, I think athletes get way too much money for what they do. And movie stars also. Really, is playing football or acting in front of a camera worth millions of dollars?
While in theory, I agree that they really get paid too much money, and I do my part by NOT participating in them (even as a spectator), but they could be doing a lot worse things to bring home the same kind of money, like selling drugs or selling weapons or other things along those lines. Given the choice, I'd rather see them as semi-role models of sports stars and actors/actresses.
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DataDoc
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reply to Hall
said by Hall See Profile :

At first I was going to say "I stand corrected", but now I have to wonder about those stats... Table tennis, badminton, and dragon boat racing ??
It all depends on what you mean by "most popular". I have no axe to grind, as I don't follow sports.

Here's a page of stats »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_lea···endances

Just eyeballing the figures shows soccer outdraws any other sport.
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joako
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reply to Reese1972
Like the other poster said ENDORSEMENTS. I believe the world cup is one of the most watched sporting events worldwide, you are a multi-billion dollar global conglomerate (IE: Siemens) how much would you pay to have your name seen on the worlds largest sporting event????
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