  leXicon5 Pelosi, SHUT YOUR Fing Pie Hole Premium join:2000-12-27 Saint Louis, MO
| Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n
WOW....this ought to put some of your panties in a bunch: »www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2398 -- "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" - David St. Hubbins
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  The Dv8or DSLReports Forums -- The Mouse House 2.0 Premium join:2001-08-09 Danbury, CT clubs: | Pretty ballsy, and how convenient to blame the government. Why not charge 99 cents and make it a download in iTunes? -- You're so vain... I bet you think this post is about you. |
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  hyperjoe Premium join:2000-11-03 Gates Mills, OH | reply to leXicon5 considering many who complain about an apple product and fill out class suits because, "days later, the better and newer came out and we were not told", I can understand the charge. -- Have you considered the value of an enema? |
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  MacWin
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| At least they have a valid reason.
"Im not going to claim to understand this next part, which really just makes no sense to me at all, but the claim Apples making is that it _cant_ give you the 802.11n-unlocking software for free. The reason: the Core 2 Duo Macs werent advertised as 802.11n-ready, and a little law called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act supposedly prohibits Apple from giving away an unadvertised new feature for one of its products. Hence, said the Apple rep, the companys not distributing new _features_ in Software Update any more, just _bug fixes._ Because of Sarbanes-Oxley. If this is an accurate statement of Apples position, which as an attorney (but not one with any Sarbanes background) I find at least plausible, this is really crazy."
»backstage.ilounge.com/index.php/···c2d-mac/ |
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 zeromips Premium join:2006-10-02 | reply to leXicon5 Meh, its only $4.99, dunno what people are getting so freaked out about. |
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  sporkme drop the crantini and move it, sister Premium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ | reply to MacWin I call BS on the SO excuse. I've downloaded plenty of software from Software Update that has enabled features that were not there before. |
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  bbarrera Premium,MVM join:2000-10-23 Sacramento, CA clubs:
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| said by sporkme :I call BS on the SO excuse. SOX is causing ripples all over the universe, the excuse isn't that far fetched. Unfortunately I deal with SOX at work and it is a PITA.
Let's parse the 'excuse' for a solution... quote: According to the editor, the fee stems from a law called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which supposedly prohibits Apple from giving away an unadvertised new feature of an already sold product without enduring some onerous accounting measures.
The solution is for Apple to advertise new yet currently unavailable features. Then no problem with later enabling those features via software update. |
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  MacWin
join:2003-06-26 Imperial, MO | "Unfortunately I deal with SOX at work and it is a PITA."
Makes me glad I'm with a private company. |
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  M A R K St. Ides Heaven Premium join:2001-06-15 Long Island clubs: | reply to leXicon5 Lame garbage... |
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  Daniel8802
join:2004-07-09 Sewell, NJ clubs: | its coming from appleinsider .... |
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  leXicon5 Pelosi, SHUT YOUR Fing Pie Hole Premium join:2000-12-27 Saint Louis, MO
| reply to zeromips said by zeromips :Meh, its only $4.99, dunno what people are getting so freaked out about. You do know the crowd that you're referring to right? They don't flinch when the iPod they want is $499 but whine and moan about a product they have not seen yet... -- "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" - David St. Hubbins
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 russotto
join:2000-10-05 Collegeville, PA | reply to leXicon5 If it's a choice between not giving away any more new features and risking Federal "pound me in the ass" prison, management will kill or charge for the features every time.
Time to hoist the Jolly Roger for third party 'n' users, I think. |
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  nolancj
join:2002-06-30 Long Beach, CA
| reply to MacWin I'm in the software business. I can see the reasoning here. It could very well stem not so much from SOX (as it's called), but also existing contracts with gov't pricing schedules. This is a legitimate concern.
SOX rules prohibit you from selling "future features" with an existing sale. For example, if I were to sell you a piece of software, I have to represent what it does TODAY. I cannot give you "future" features. Most Software companies work around this with maintenance fees. You basically cannot sell what you do not have.
So, my guess is Apple is going to sell this as a new feature. Therefore, they can't give it away.
Stupid, but blame the accountants, Enron, MCI, and all the others that SOX came from.
said by MacWin :At least they have a valid reason. "Im not going to claim to understand this next part, which really just makes no sense to me at all, but the claim Apples making is that it _cant_ give you the 802.11n-unlocking software for free. The reason: the Core 2 Duo Macs werent advertised as 802.11n-ready, and a little law called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act supposedly prohibits Apple from giving away an unadvertised new feature for one of its products. Hence, said the Apple rep, the companys not distributing new _features_ in Software Update any more, just _bug fixes._ Because of Sarbanes-Oxley. If this is an accurate statement of Apples position, which as an attorney (but not one with any Sarbanes background) I find at least plausible, this is really crazy." » backstage.ilounge.com/index.php/···c2d-mac/ This is a feature, something |
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 russotto
join:2000-10-05 Collegeville, PA | reply to bbarrera Advertising unavailable features is ALSO a violation. |
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  MacWin
join:2003-06-26 Imperial, MO 1 edit | "Advertising unavailable features is ALSO a violation."
Shhh the people on the front page thread might hear you and then what would they be able to bash Apple about. |
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  Michieru2 zzz zzz zzz Premium join:2005-01-28 Miami, FL | What's that???
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  Maggs Premium join:2002-11-29 Woodside, NY | Easy enough
tell Application Airport
{give me my draft N}
end tell
Someone will find a way. -- It's a SYN, not to ACK your packets. |
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  Thinkdiff Premium,MVM join:2001-08-07 Bronx, NY
| reply to leXicon5 I'm sure there will be third party apps that do this in no time. Apple just needs to charge to cover their asses. Look at the iBook G3/G4s for example. They were not advertised to have Extended Desktop, but a OpenFirmware hack was released that enabled it without any problems. -- University of Southern California - Class of 2010. Fight On! |
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  HiVolt Premium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON clubs: | reply to leXicon5 Bah im sure the day the new AEBS hits the market, that enabler will be spread via Bit Torrent in a flash. -- I ignore all ignorant posts. |
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  RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30 Columbus, OH | reply to russotto then how did directv get away with sellng its hr-20 hddvr that had the connections for ota,network,ect... but did not work because they needed to be enabled via software updates once they got the outher bugs fixed. |
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