rmrper
join:2006-06-13
Garland, TX | reply to nycdave
Re: How-to: make ActionTec MI424-WR a network bridge
nycdave, Thanks for the clarification! |
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smajchrz
join:2003-10-11
Chantilly, VA
| reply to nycdave
said by nycdave  : ...the ONT CANNOT support both interfaces at the same time... When I read this bit it appeared that you were suggesting that only one port could be active at a time, period. It did not appear that you were referring only to MOCA.
Your reply to rmrper clarified this statement and we are now on the same page. |
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to smajchrz
said by smajchrz :said by nycdave :The 612 ONT has MoCA (on the CATV f-connector) and ethernet interfaces. The installer can choose which port to send the data across, but the ONT CANNOT support both interfaces at the same time - it is MoCA or ethernet..That is the way the ONT is designed, it is not a flaw. If you are truly indicating that if one has a 612 with data and TV service they must use the f-connector, then I see that as quite inflexible and a step backwards. It may have been designed that way intentionally, but that is still a glaring design flaw as far as I am concerned. How do you figure? I never said they must use the coax for both data and video. Please re-read the previous posts. |
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to rmrper
said by rmrper :nycdave, are you saying the new 612 cannot have ethernet just for data, and coax only for tv? Meaning, if my normal ONT died and I was given a 612 to replace it, I'd be forced to use coax only since I have TV service? If so, that's a major strike against FIOS in my opinion. I have the Actiontec just as a switch with my WRT54G in front right now. The Actiontec will not play nice with ATT CallVantage, and I had issues getting my Xbox 360 to work as well. I would hate to be forced to use the Actiontec as the primary router, so much so that I would consider dropping TV service if it meant I could keep Ethernet to the ONT. No, that is not what I am saying. I am trying to explain that the 612 is designed for more flexibility. If a customer only has existing coax, then FiOS data can be sent through the coax along with FiOS TV (CAT5 would not have to be run). If CAT5 is already present, then FiOS data can be sent through the ethernet jack on the ONT (and FiOS TV would still use the coax). But, the ONT's MoCA and the ONT's ethernet cannot be used at the same time to send data to the router. The ONT only supports 1 WAN data 'path' at a time. If a customer wants to use their own router, then the ethernet output would have to be used on the 612. If that customer also has FiOS TV, the video is still using the coax (but the MoCA LAN network would have to be generated either by the Actiontec, or a Moto NIM100 inside the home). |
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smajchrz
join:2003-10-11
Chantilly, VA
| reply to nycdave
said by nycdave :The 612 ONT has MoCA (on the CATV f-connector) and ethernet interfaces. The installer can choose which port to send the data across, but the ONT CANNOT support both interfaces at the same time - it is MoCA or ethernet..That is the way the ONT is designed, it is not a flaw. If you are truly indicating that if one has a 612 with data and TV service they must use the f-connector, then I see that as quite inflexible and a step backwards. It may have been designed that way intentionally, but that is still a glaring design flaw as far as I am concerned. |
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DaDrgon
join:2007-01-20
Garland, TX
| reply to nycdave
said by nycdave :The 612 ONT has MoCA (on the CATV f-connector) and ethernet interfaces. The installer can choose which port to send the data across, but the ONT CANNOT support both interfaces at the same time - it is MoCA or ethernet..That is the way the ONT is designed, it is not a flaw. that's pretty much what I've found out |
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DaDrgon
join:2007-01-20
Garland, TX
| reply to Lee GWB
said by Lee GWB :Hi, So there isn't a Cat 5 cable plugged INTO your Actiontec ETHERNET WAN? correct |
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rmrper
join:2006-06-13
Garland, TX
 ·AT&T CallVantage
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to nycdave
nycdave, are you saying the new 612 cannot have ethernet just for data, and coax only for tv? Meaning, if my normal ONT died and I was given a 612 to replace it, I'd be forced to use coax only since I have TV service? If so, that's a major strike against FIOS in my opinion. I have the Actiontec just as a switch with my WRT54G in front right now. The Actiontec will not play nice with ATT CallVantage, and I had issues getting my Xbox 360 to work as well. I would hate to be forced to use the Actiontec as the primary router, so much so that I would consider dropping TV service if it meant I could keep Ethernet to the ONT. |
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to smajchrz
The 612 ONT has MoCA (on the CATV f-connector) and ethernet interfaces. The installer can choose which port to send the data across, but the ONT CANNOT support both interfaces at the same time - it is MoCA or ethernet..That is the way the ONT is designed, it is not a flaw. |
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smajchrz
join:2003-10-11
Chantilly, VA
| reply to DaDrgon
said by DaDrgon :I was going to have them put my install on ethernet but the techs told me that they will put me on coax anyway when I decide to get fios TV (which I plan to do so in the next few years) hence why I had them just put me on coax. Little did I know at the time that I'd run into this problem. This makes no sense at all.
said by DaDrgon :[I actually got my fios installed a few days ago, so I'm using the newest ONT. It still has an ethernet jack but it's unused (I was told that you can't use both coax and ethernet at the same time or it gets screwy, which makes sense). Ok, someone is feeding you some bad information and really does not know what they are talking about. Al TV/data installs up until now have had TV coming in over the coax port and data/guide/VOD coming in over the ethernet port. If you are suggesting that the newer ONTs have issues utilizing both ports at the same time it is either a bug or, huge design flaw or misinformation. My money is on misinformation. |
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Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ
1 edit | reply to DaDrgon
Hi,
So there isn't a Cat 5 cable plugged INTO your Actiontec ETHERNET WAN? |
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DaDrgon
join:2007-01-20
Garland, TX
| reply to Lee GWB
said by Lee GWB :Hi, I need clarification. U had FIOS for over a year with the Older ONT. I ALWAYS had CAT5 hooked up and STILL DO. I am using the Actiontec also. If you check the Screen shot it is a Bridge over Wan. Lee I actually got my fios installed a few days ago, so I'm using the newest ONT. It still has an ethernet jack but it's unused (I was told that you can't use both coax and ethernet at the same time or it gets screwy, which makes sense). The difference with my install than yours is mine is a true DHCP connection, it does not use PPPOE.
On another note, I did not have to clone the MAC address on my linksys either
On the 3rd screenshot, it will always say "bridge" under the "Network (Home/Office)" column because it is bridging the ethernet, coax (not broadband coax), and wireless interfaces... it does not indicate on that particular screen which interfaces are being bridged, you have to actually go into the "Network (Home/Office)" settings to actually find out which interfaces are bridged |
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