truocchio
join:2004-07-05
Miami Beach, FL
| The devil is in the details...
My company installs internet access systems in MDU/apartments. When having to retro fit a MDU with a wired system there are often times many barriers to completing the job and in some cases, serious showstoppers. Running a new fiber to every unit is going to be a lot of work along with cutting, drilling, and inconvenience. Not that is not worth it, just that many will be unhappy with the process. Especially in older buildings where there are not "homerun" conduits and wires free run through various paths through each wall. This is the case in many buildings NY, NJ and other major Verizon areas. Because every building is unique, with its own condo board or management company, I can see this taking an extraordinary amount of time to complete.
However they better get a move on, many indie ISP are already contracting with developers to pre wire the building with fiber/cat5&6 and signing multi year bulk rate contracts for triple play services. Verizon, cable cos, etc are being shut out and are not even wiring many of these properties.
If you are in a condo/apt it will still be sometime before mass FIOS rollouts occur, unless your board is tech savvy and doesnt mind the inconveniences of the retro fit. |
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HEMIDART68
join:2000-12-13
Huntington Beach, CA | I have fios in my apt. I was one of the first to get it. Good luck guys.
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD | reply to truocchio
I don't see the big deal here. The new 612 ONT's can use the MoCA WAN channel to send data over coax. I'm sure a large portion of apartment buildings are pre-wired with coax. |
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UofMiamiGrad
Premium
join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY
1 edit | said by kyler13  :I don't see the big deal here. The new 612 ONT's can use the MoCA WAN channel to send data over coax. I'm sure a large portion of apartment buildings are pre-wired with coax. My condo building built in the late 80s is all crap RG-59. Even the cable company came and was going to run new RG-11 to the units, but it's still spooled up hanging from the ceiling of the garage level. As you can see the condo board really has teeth and follows through. I am hoping to change that by getting on the Condo board and getting FIOS in my building. So far I have gotten wiring plans sent to the managing agent from VZ, will he present it to the Condo board is beyond me, but I'll get it done one way or another. I need my fiber  |
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truocchio
join:2004-07-05
Miami Beach, FL | reply to kyler13
But many times the condo doesn't own that coaxial to the unit the cable company does, and for 10-20 years. It depends on the developers deal with the cable co. so that solution is not always going to work either. |
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DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX
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said by kyler13 :I don't see the big deal here. The new 612 ONT's can use the MoCA WAN channel to send data over coax. I'm sure a large portion of apartment buildings are pre-wired with coax. The problem with this approach is that there is only a single WAN channel defined on MoCA, which means that each unit would need an independent coax connection to the ONT. This may or may not be an issue if FiOS TV is also being installed, but could be a big problem if a different TV service is required to co-exist on the same coax.
A better solution is to use the ONT625 (»www.tellabs.com/products/1000/tl···_625.pdf) which provides eight VDSL ports instead of Ethernet. These can be run over standard phone wiring with a VDSL modem at the other end. |
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napilus
join:2006-03-26
Hillsboro, OR | They would simply install moca nid as long as it is broadcast television, and not satellite they can both go down the same sheath |
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DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX
| said by napilus :They would simply install moca nid as long as it is broadcast television, and not satellite they can both go down the same sheath But the problem is that each unit connected via MoCA would need to be isolated from each other unit connected via MoCA. If the TV is distributed through an ad-hoc arrangement of amplifiers and splitters this may be very hard to achieve.
The advantage of VDSL is that it works over a phone line and by definition these will be individually routed. Incidentally, it looks like the Actiontec router has an option to include a VDSL module for the WAN port meaning that a separate modem wouldn't even be needed. |
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