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Tikker_LoS

join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK
·SaskTel Saskatchewan

reply to inteller
Re: and 100% of this survey is stupid

said by inteller See Profile :

They should just be happy not all their customers are "bandwidth hogs"
ok, sparky!

having an idea of the profile of your customers lets you build out your network accordingly

xsiddalx

join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Yahoo

said by Tikker_LoS See Profile :

said by inteller See Profile :

They should just be happy not all their customers are "bandwidth hogs"
ok, sparky!

having an idea of the profile of your customers lets you build out your network accordingly
And letting your customers continue developing their customer profiles to continue developing your network stinks, right?

It stink being in a business where customers can't be pegged to a static demand...makes sense that the industry keeps consolidating and migrating toward a TV model!


sweintz
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join:2002-03-01
Hamden, CT

reply to Tikker_LoS
said by Tikker_LoS See Profile :

said by inteller See Profile :

They should just be happy not all their customers are "bandwidth hogs"
ok, sparky!

having an idea of the profile of your customers lets you build out your network accordingly
BS holdover idea from telco style engineering.
Problem is, ISP's think they can oversubscribe an IP data network the way you can with a circuit switched telco network.

Wrongo. (at least IMO)

With IP data networks, given how cheap the darn hardware is (specifically high end ethernet swicthes that do layer 3 at wire speed) one can and IMO SHOULD assume 100 utilization for each and every user, and design accordingly.

Ya, you CAN oversubscribe, and MOST users (ie: people that think the web and the internet are the same thing) won't notice much of an issue.

But when my ISP starts telling me a 10% packet loss is "normal and acceptable" - then I gotta big problem with their design.

If the networks *I* designed at $dayjob had even 1/10th of 1 percent packet loss, I'd be called to the carpet pretty quickly.

Just my 2 cents.
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