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davisx

join:2005-01-06
Pay for this?

Here's a question, if I have to actually pay for content from this website, why the heck would i want to be uploading anything?


SSX4life
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join:2004-02-13
·RoadRunner Cable

To reduce the cost of bandwidth they have to charge for the product!

They could also offer incentives such as upload X amount and receive a free copy of a movie or equiviliant. Reduced bandwidth costs (or little to none at all) means reduced prices on media

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Dodge
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join:2002-11-27
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And when your account gets capped or terminated for "excessive" uploading will they help you resolve the situation?


jon EE

@gmu.edu

No, of course not. That is a trade off. A Good torrent client let you cap anything from maximum uploaded, to maximum rate for uploading.

And not everyone has a max data ul/dl cap. I don't have that much of a high speed internet, but I can upload all day long and they won't say boo.


batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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Netcong, NJ
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·Verizon Online DSL

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said by Dodge See Profile :

And when your account gets capped or terminated for "excessive" uploading will they help you resolve the situation?
Get off Cablevision, they are crooks.

Dodge
Premium
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And verizon cannot provide DSL here due to digital-loop, so by your suggestion I should go to dial-up?

peerimpact

join:2005-11-07
Londonderry, VT
Peer Impact already gives users a system credit for uploading.

»www.peerimpact.com


TKJunkMail
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said by davisx See Profile :

Here's a question, if I have to actually pay for content from this website, why the heck would i want to be uploading anything?
They are trying to reduce their bandwidth costs at the expense of the ISP's bandwidth costs. I think they would lose in court claiming discrimination for blocking bittorent if the ISP blocks the whole protocol for all sites and not just specific ones. Of course, net neutrality could alter that equation if it ever passes. But personally I believe that an ISP can block a protocol and not a site and stay out of legal trouble.
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batterup
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·Verizon Online DSL

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They are trying to reduce their bandwidth costs at the expense of the ISP's bandwidth costs. ... Of course, net neutrality could alter that equation if it ever passes.
The builders of the network are risking billions of share holder dollars. There is no way they will permit leaches to suck them dry. Pass laws that prevent network providers from making a sufficient return on investment and the investment will stop.

wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..

join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH

said by batterup See Profile :

Pass laws that prevent network providers from making a sufficient return on investment and the investment will stop.
Define sufficient, and compare that to their earnings statements. All the more reason to go Muni. break-even is good enough.

puritan


batterup
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said by wentlanc See Profile :

All the more reason to go Muni. break-even is good enough.

puritan
I don't want to pay higher taxes so kiddies can download porn.

wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..

join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
Even if you are paying less that you are now... Good justification.

Which telco are you invested in?

puritan


batterup
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said by wentlanc See Profile :

Even if you are paying less that you are now... Good justification.

Which telco are you invested in?

puritan
I have some Verizon stock I bought at $60, I'll sell it to you for $50.

wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..

join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
Tempting offer! I'll have to pass though.

I've recently given up throwing money away.



thender2
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Staten Island, NY

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said by Dodge See Profile :

And when your account gets capped or terminated for "excessive" uploading will they help you resolve the situation?
Get off Cablevision, they are crooks.
Agreed.

Cablevision is like the PSU that rates itself at 25c.

The PSU that is 700 watts at 25c, will go down to unstable 350 at 50c, which is a realistic temperature.

Cablevision's 10/1 or 15/2 or 20/5 or whatever silliness they try to run on their awful network gets dropped down when you actually use the connection they give you. They're not ready for the next generation of content.
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