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manfmmd
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Mail Changes Coming!

Got this email today:

Dear AT&T Yahoo! Member,

We're making some security improvements to your AT&T Yahoo! service. These changes will affect members who send or receive email from a desktop or mobile client program, such as Microsoft Outlook, Microsoft Outlook Express, Eudora, Apple Mail, or Thunderbird.

To continue sending and receiving email with your desktop or mobile email client program, please take the following steps by March 30, 2007.

1. Open your email client program.
2. Locate the email account settings for your particular client.
3. Change the POP server to pop.att.yahoo.com.
4. Change the SMTP server to smtp.att.yahoo.com.
5. Change the SMTP port to 465 and check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL).
6. Change the POP3 port to 995 and check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL).

For detailed instructions on making these changes in Outlook and Outlook Express, please click here.

The web-based version of AT&T Yahoo! Mail is not affected by these changes and will continue to be available at »mail.yahoo.com.

If you have questions, please call us at 1-800-ATT-2020.

Sincerely,

AT&T Yahoo! Customer Care
Someone might want to make this a sticky.
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GB34

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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Just now made the changes to Thunderbird settings and it worked just fine, both sending and receiving.
M9878

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I have been using port 587 for outgoing mail with the old server. Will this new 465 be as secure?

jimkyle
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Everything should be encrypted, in both directions, with these new settings. I just changed over this afternoon and it's working nicely for me...
p51d007
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Works ok. Not sure if I needed to or not, but I added those
ports in NOD32 IMON

koma3504
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Oh so now our incoming pop scanner on whatever A/V wont scan incomoming email?? Like it is already with worldnet accounts.

d_l
Barsoom
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Are you saying that your A/V scanner won't handle an SSL connection? You can handle that problem by piping the email request through stunnel. so that it looks like this:
email client <-- A/V scanner <-- stunnel <-- POP3 server

It looks complicated and unwieldy. Even though the initial set up can be difficult, once configured the arrangement is set and forget. I've used this for five years connecting to Worldnet with SAProxy in place of the A/V scanner with nary a problem.

The A/V program just needs a configurable hostmap file to set the incoming POP3 port to something other than the standard port 110.

koma3504
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

The average user would not even have a clue on how to do that. Like most older folks as a example.

What if it was a exicuteable that would have normaly been detected by the software of Their choosing that They pay for for just that reason. And now you get infected because it can't scan it as it downloads.

By default most leave outlook express to send and recieve at start up. which I personally prefer to have to click on send and recieve.

So Now you will have more infected machines infecting countless other machines on a daily basis.
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manfmmd
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Not if the AV has active scanning ( I believe that most , if not all of them do if they are running in the background). Like nwrickert See Profile stated, when it tries to load into memory, the AV will stop it.
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koma3504
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Some malaware is desighned when clicked on to disable your A/V So you would still be SOL. when it would be caught before it could attempt to exicute it. as it is now detected with the POP scanner as it downloaded it and Quarantine or disable access to said file.

d_l
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Well hey, if there is really a hard and fast deadline of March 30, 2007, and some people can't reconfigure their A/V scanner for the new ports and SSL, then they won't be getting ANY mail so they won't be infecting countless other machines on a daily basis. Problem solved.

Frankly the problem falls back on the A/V programmers for not permitting the use of 995 and SSL for POP3 connections! All email clients have been able use those for the past several years. This change is for email security when people are using their email clients off the AT&T network, e.g. when traveling. Heck, Worldnet instituted this security for travelers years ago.

Maybe AT&T will leave a backdoor server such as pop.sbcglobal.net for those who can't use SSL and won't be leaving the AT&T network?

koma3504
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Yes your probally correct on it falls back to the A/V Venders.
But that doesnt mean Att should make the internet less secure for all of us.

Those same people will call support on how to change the ports and were right back at Sqare one. They will be infecting countless other computers on a daily bases

nwrickert
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Frankly the problem falls back on the A/V programmers for not permitting the use of 995 and SSL for POP3 connections!
I'll have to disagree with that.

The way A/V does the email scanning, is to setup a proxy and redirect the mail through the proxy. That allows it to view the data stream from the email client.

The trouble with port 995 and SSL, is that the A/V would only see an encrypted data stream. Thus it would be unable to detect any virus because the encryption would hide it.

It would require the email client not use encryption, and then have the A/V proxy handle the SSL encryption. Setting it up that way is a bit complex for the average user, even if the A/V provides such encryption support.

Simplest is to just turn off the incoming email scanning, and let the A/V catch the virus if there is an attempt to load it into memory.

d_l
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

I implied that the A/V would handle the SSL encryption when I blamed the programmers for not permitting the use of 995 and SSL. The A/V program would make the SSL connection on 995, do its checking, and pipe the email to 127.0.0.1 or localhost. The A/V programs are doing this now only connecting unsecured on port 110 instead of 995.

The email client would then simply connect to 127.0.0.1 or localhost using port 110 instead of directly to the AT&T POP server. It really isn't that complicated! Especially if the A/V programmers would finally get their programs up-to-date!

nwrickert
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

AT&T tells its customers to set their email client POP settings to use port 995 with SSL.

The customer is expected to read that as "don't touch the email client POP settings, but go into your A/V settings, and set port 995 and SSL for POP in your A/V."

Sorry, but non-technical users will find that quite confusing.

d_l
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

The directions/instructions for this SSL change over do not HAVE to be restricted just email client POP and SMTP settings. There CAN be alternative setting changes listed for other situations. Geez, Worldnet has an incredible array of elaborate set up instructions for almost every possible situation. AT&T (SBC) owns Worldnet now and wouldn't have to start their instruction set from scratch.

That is unless Yahoo is writing these help instructions. Then maybe there is a reason for the limits of these help pages.

nwrickert
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Some malaware is desighned when clicked on to disable your A/V.
The malware still has to be loaded into memory before it can disable A/V.

The only way clicking on malware can disable properly functioning A/V, is if that malware is not currently recognized in the A/V virus tables. In such a case, incoming mail scanning provides no additional benefit, since the malware would not be recognized there either.

koma3504
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

said by nwrickert See Profile :

Some malaware is desighned when clicked on to disable your A/V.
The malware still has to be loaded into memory before it can disable A/V.

The only way clicking on malware can disable properly functioning A/V, is if that malware is not currently recognized in the A/V virus tables. In such a case, incoming mail scanning provides no additional benefit, since the malware would not be recognized there either.
I'll have to disagree with this I have seen where the a/v did catch it but it still disabled the A/V and the task manager and regedit.

It's better to catch it as its downloading so it will disable access or Quarantine/Strip the file out of the email.
Giving the User the protection of not even being able to click on it.
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I tried an experiment in 2003, when the sobig.f virus was rampant.

(1) I made sure that email scanning was turned off in my AV (this was McAfee enterprise).

(2) I deliberately sent myself a copy of a virus infected mail. This was accepted by my mail program without warning, and showed an attachment.

(3) I then tried to run the attachment. The AV immediately caught it and deleted the virus.

Most AV software is setup to catch viruses as they are loaded into memory. This works even if mail virus scanning is turned off.

NOTE: I did this experiment running as a limited user. That limits the damage even if a virus gets through.

Personally, I leave email scanning turned off, but I use a limited user account for most thing, including email reading.

jimkyle
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FWIW I switched to the SSL ports a couple of days ago, using "The Bat!" as my mail client (it calls the ports TLS rather than SSL) and AVG Pro 7.5's plug-in for TB! as an active scanner.

It's still detecting "greeting card.exe" as being suspicious, and quarantining it. Apparently at least one AV package is doing things right (perhaps it's hooking into the mail client AFTER the packets have been decrypted, rather than tapping into the stream between mail client and WAN)...

koma3504
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Well this is good to know. But how many free A/V soulutions will let you do this. Which alot of people use the free stuff.

It would also be good to know which of all the A/V programs free and paid will let you do ssl pop scanning.

Like I rember back when worldnet account was the only email i had the A/V that i currantly use was able to scan all incoming email. Then all of a sudden it quit working.

If i rember correctly it was using 127.0.0.1 localhost to do this.
I have spent alot of time changing stuff from my worlnett account to be sent to my Att/sbc account for that reason and now it looks like i will have to be going though that pianfull proccess agian.
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

"I did try it and I receive an warning on the Security Cert. name does not match."

Change the server name to get rid of the "sbcblobal" and add "att". EG: pop.att.yahoo.com & smtp.att.yahoo.com.

As far as adding ssl to email retrieval and sending is concerned, one benefit would be secure email when using a public wi-fi.

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said by jimkyle See Profile :

FWIW I switched to the SSL ports a couple of days ago, using "The Bat!" as my mail client (it calls the ports TLS rather than SSL) and AVG Pro 7.5's plug-in for TB! as an active scanner.
Apparently it also works in AVG free as well... »forum.grisoft.cz/freeforum/read.···22,64298
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

KC_User, thanks for the solution. Thats what I get for skimming the post and just remembering the port numbers.

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interesting, I never got notice of this... I still have @sbcglobal.net addresses too - any idea of these will eventually change?
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

I did not receive this notice either.

I did try it and I receive an warning on the Security Cert. name does not match.

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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

I went ahead and switched mine too and it's working fine - this is in Outlook 2003.

What mail program are you using that you see this warning?
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ReneeRC

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I have Apple Mail and I was able to do all the stuff you listed EXCEPT that I don't know where/how to do item #6:

6. Change the POP3 port to 995 and check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL).

POP3 port? Is this the port that is 110 right now? If it isn't, then how do I change this POP3 port? I can't find it.

Thanks.

Oh, and I didn't get an email saying anything about this either.

nwrickert
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Yes, the POP3 port is the port that is normally 110.

No, I haven't received mail about this yet either. I'm beginning to think I won't. Maybe they aren't mailing to people who mainly use the webmail interface.

jimkyle
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

And I've not received any official Email -- and I hardly ever use the web interface. Nevertheless I think that changing over to SSL is probably a good thing to do. Now if I can just figure out how to configure POPFILE and Avast Home to work with it. My own installation is working nicely, but my wife prefers Outlook Express, POPFILE, and Avast -- and that combination won't quite cut it with SSL/TLS at the moment because of the encryption.

One solution would be to remove the "internet mail scanner" module from Avast and let the "resident shield" do all the work, and that may be what I do...

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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Thanks... never received that email, though. But, the last SBC Yahoo email I got was in my Web Spam folder, which I only rarely check. So it's often emptied without my seeing it.

And the accepted way to debug any send/receive issues with POP3/SMTP mail is to turn off and leave off email A/V scanning to start with. As has been mentioned above a few times, it is just extra "proxy" work for the email client and the file system's A/V will catch it.

Various A/V products are completely screwing up Vista Windows Mail in a lot of cases right now. Turning their email scanning off fixes it.
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David
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

I have the questions answered and I will post them tomorrow. I went to the MSFT conference at the adams mark hotel today downtown.

But hey as least I got my free copy of Office 07
ReneeRC

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Thanks. I've changed the stuff, and my Apple Mail is working just fine now.
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I'm in Kansas City. I followed the instructions (by the way, I too did not receive any email with them, but then I think ATT fails to deliver approx. 1/3 of my email).

I changed both pop3 and smtp settings, and I can receive mail with the new settings, but not send. It just times out (no specific error message, just the one saying to check settings).

My smtp settings read port 465 and use SSL and smtp.att.yahoo.com as in these instructions. No go.

I tried changing back to port 587 and "use TSL if available" and smtpauth.sbcglobal.yahoo.com and that gave me an error message "Unable to connect." I had been using it fine (though very slow) earlier in the evening, in fact sent these very instructions to a friend moments before changing my own settings.

So now I cannot send email unless I go to webmail, which I assume will still work.

Any suggestions? Am I missing something?

Edit: I should add that I use Thunderbird email client. I came here to the forum because email was extremely slow and I wanted to see if there was trouble in Kansas City again. Then I found these instructions.

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I got an email with a blurb about Secure Email service, in which this would be part of but it sounded more like a pay service. I sure have not received a notice that this must be done. I would think if it were a requirement that there would be many support calls when the non SSL email stopped. Personally though I think I would rather use an SSL connection.
ccenters

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I made the changes in my email client [ Netscape] and I can't send or receive mail.. Is this supposed to be changed in Netscape setup or is it not for Netscape clients ?

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koma3504
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What about all the people that do not know how to set up Stunnel??? Scanning email as it downloads is vital to Security and the spreading of viruses and the slowdown of botnets.

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One point that should be understood is that this change only encrypts the email in transmission, protecting your ID and password, which is useful on wireless networks. Upon arrival at Yahoo, the email is decrypted, and is likely passed along to the destination unencrypted. Email is store-n-forward technology, which means that in many cases, it is temporarily stored on a disk drive. Do you know your ISPs archival policy? In order to keep the content private, it would be necessary to encrypt the email before it is sent. Otherwise, it is potentially like a postcard, with contents available to anyone with access. Here's a link on the privacy issue.
»www.pbs.org/now/shows/307/index.html

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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Just an update I e-mailed the following off.

There’s a few questions the forum has in regards to the new mail coming in now

• legacy users- Do we have to change?
• Is everyone going to have to change mail servers?
• Some people use a linux extention called “Stunnel” I can’t say I have used it for e-mail but apparently it scans for viruses and such. Are there additional settings needed and such?
• Will Mail through this link will still be spam and malware filtered?
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

said by David See Profile :

• legacy users- Do we have to change?
Apparently legacy subscribers will still be able to use their legacy POP servers, and will only have to change their SMTP server to smtpauth.sbcglobal.net (authenticate with their complete email address and password). The message you attached below is intended for Migrated/Non-Legacy members.

said by David See Profile :

• Is everyone going to have to change mail servers?
Not necessarily, however everyone will have to use an authenticating SMTP server. Read above.

said by David See Profile :

• Some people use a linux extention called “Stunnel” I can’t say I have used it for e-mail but apparently it scans for viruses and such. Are there additional settings needed and such?
Any settings that we would have access to and/or be able to provide are platform-independent. Stunnel falls under the GNU license, and appears to offer precompiled binaries for Windows only (‘nix users will have to compile it from source, in other words). This also means that any issues that a ‘nix user, who is capable of compiling a program from source (or, at the very least, pointing yum or whatever RPM manager to the appropriate repository), runs into will probably be far beyond the humble scope of ATTIS Customer Care to resolve.

As with most open source applications, the user’s best resource for support will probably be searching message boards (via Google, etc) or from the project homepage (in this case, stunnel.org). ATTIS Customer Care does not support Unix-based operating systems (with the sole exception of Mac OS X, and even then we don’t support the bash commands used in Darwin).

said by David See Profile :

More information: Some A/V scanners can't work with SSL connections. Stunnel acts as a front end for them to encrypt the email/passwords and make the SSL connection. It then passes the email to the A/V scanner which will then pass it to the email client.


Sounds to me as though the standard port settings etc. should work fine, here.

said by David See Profile :

Any authentication details that Stunnel would need such as the certificates the email server will present for verification to Stunnel would be useful.
I’m not sure where I would be able to obtain this information. In any event, from looking over the project page at stunnel.org, it doesn’t appear as though they will need to input any specific certificate information beforehand, provided that they have it configured to listen properly

said by David See Profile :

• Will Mail through this link will still be spam and malware filtered?
Of course. Aside from the few obvious changes, mail functionality should be identical. If I find anything to the contrary, I’ll let you know.

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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Thanks beach boy,

One other thing that I beleive needs to be answered, how will people be notified of these changes?

It's apparent not too many people have received any kind of notice of these necessary changes.

Any information you can provide regarding this matter will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Currently from what I learned is it's supposed to happen via e-mail and it started in sept. of last year.
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I tried the changes and it does not work. I've had my servers set to [pop|smtp].att.yahoo.com for some time.

I tried all permutations of the port, the SSL, ...

The one change that does still work is to leave the port at 110 and select SSL.

I use Seamonkey 1.1.1

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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

I think it only works when you receive the e-mail, if you haven't gotten it yet, it might not be moved to the new server settings.

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List of domains that have changes.

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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

ok, well that confirms it must be everyone then.

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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

Changed mine, verified it works for sbcglobal using Vista's Windows Mail.
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

I'm new to dsl and setup outlook 2003 with the new settings. I still can't send mail and have no idea how to fix it. I'm using McAfee. Is the problem my A/V or Outlook?

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Hi BB (and forum),
Thought I would chime in on this one since I sat through an online chat session with AT&T working on this issue with the head boss' home machine using Outlook 2002...the tech told me to put everything back and to leave it alone until 'I had problems sending and receiving.' (Sigh.) Apparently all new users will be using the new settings, and old users migrated at some point in the (distant?) future...so I guess it's everyone, but not right away! Now that I see the info on the SMTP authentication only for legacy users I'll swing by there and make the changes. (Thanks!)
For what it's worth.
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Re: Mail Changes Coming!

said by ehansman See Profile :

Apparently all new users will be using the new settings, and old users migrated at some point in the (distant?) future...so I guess it's everyone, but not right away! Now that I see the info on the SMTP authentication only for legacy users I'll swing by there and make the changes. (Thanks!)
For what it's worth.
- erin
If you login into your Ma Bell Dynasty ATT/SBC Yahoo web based mail and look at the pop/smtp settings, it shows the same lineup as the image in my previous post. If the legacy customers aren't suppose to use the new settings yet, maybe ATT should revert those settings on that page.
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Any idea how ssl is added to Exchange in order to have MS Exchange do a PoP3 retrieval? I changed the settings just for grins and it times out with a no response error.

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Well the changes DO NOT WORK for legacy users on Mac Mail.
I'd LOVE to be in the Call Centers right now listening to PISSED off customers who after following every direction to the letter and it STILL doesn't work, wanting to talk to a supervisor. THAT should be a HOOT to listen to right now.
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Well, just got off the phone with a Mac "experienced" rep.
The smtp.att.yahoo.com should be set to smtpauth.sbcglobal.net port 25 and password as authentication. NO SSL.

Incoming is OK, I've not had an issue with postoffice.swbell.net
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Re: Info for Mac Mail users

said by leXicon5 See Profile :

Well, just got off the phone with a Mac "experienced" rep.
The smtp.att.yahoo.com should be set to smtpauth.sbcglobal.net port 25 and password as authentication. NO SSL.

Incoming is OK, I've not had an issue with postoffice.swbell.net
I changed my email account (now using smtp.att.yahoo.com/port 465) back in February, and it has been working fine. I use Mac AppleMail. In the quote above, it says Mac users should be using "smtpauth.sbcglobal.net port 25.
Is this for legacy users? If not, then why should I change my settings if they've been working fine since last February's change?
GB34

join:2004-12-08
Adrian, MO

Re: Info for Mac Mail users

If not, then why should I change my settings if they've been working fine since last February's change?
If it works and it ain't broke, don't fix it!
ReneeRC

join:2002-08-08
Ballwin, MO

Re: Info for Mac Mail users

said by GB34 See Profile :

If not, then why should I change my settings if they've been working fine since last February's change?
If it works and it ain't broke, don't fix it!
LOL, exactly!
balthus

join:2001-02-23
Dallas, TX
I got the email this morning but I use Entourage for my MAC and also get SBC email via pop3 on my Palm Treo. Do I make the same changes? Thanks.
thelinster

join:2002-08-10
Dallas, TX

Re: Mail Changes - ENTOURAGE & PALM DEVICES

Entourage instructions are on the yahoo page under mail help. What's weird is that you have to set the smtp to override port 465. Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? POP seems to work fine with SSL enabled without the override. I did a test mail and got it. But I did a forward to myself and didn't get it yet, so who knows? Any Entourage pros out there?
acarlisletx

join:2001-09-04
Magnolia, TX
Works fine with Thunderbird 2.0
ReneeRC

join:2002-08-08
Ballwin, MO

I just got an email today (5/14) about this email change, lol. I guess they figure, better late than never. Anyway, several times today, I've gotten that pesky pop up box that shows itself when an AT&T Server is thinking about being a problem. I'm not going to check it out any further yet, since it may, hopefully just be some temporary bug that will work its way out in a couple of days. If it starts occuring more frequently, then I'll post more info.

patent

join:2001-01-15
Chesterfield, MO

In the email I received they give the server listings for the POP first and SMTP second. Then they list the ports in the opposite order (also the opposite order they appear in Outlook). Of course, I then entered the correct numbers, but for the wrong ports and nothing would work. If you are having a problem, check that you have entered the port numbers for the correct ports.
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"The patent system added the fuel of interest to the fire of genius" - A. Lincoln

Billusa

join:2000-03-08
Dallas, TX
·AT&T Southwest

Re: Mail Changes Coming!

said by patent See Profile :

In the email I received they give the server listings for the POP first and SMTP second. Then they list the ports in the opposite order (also the opposite order they appear in Outlook). Of course, I then entered the correct numbers, but for the wrong ports and nothing would work. If you are having a problem, check that you have entered the port numbers for the correct ports.
Yea... you would think that somebody would have proof-read that email before sending it. Talk about how to make an easy task even more confusing.

They also neglect to tell you where and how to find these settings. They assume everyone knows where.
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...Bill
balthus

join:2001-02-23
Dallas, TX

Re: Mail Changes Coming!

I use Entourage on my home & work MAC's for email (not Mac MAIL) & POP3 on my Palm to check my ASBC Yahoo mail. This is the follow-up email I received today. Do I have to make these changes. Do I make them on both my MAC's & Treo? What exactly is this change in settings for? Thanks.

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Time is running out — update your email settings to help us serve you better
Dear AT&T Yahoo! Member,
We recently contacted you about some important security improvements we're making to your AT&T Yahoo! service. These changes will affect members who send or receive email from a desktop or mobile client program, such as Microsoft Outlook, Microsoft Outlook Express, Eudora, Apple Mail, or Thunderbird.
To help us ensure the security of your email, you will need to change the settings on your desktop or mobile email client program. Please choose one of the three options:

Make the Changes Automatically: To automatically make the required changes to Outlook Express, use the AT&T Self Support Tool.

If you already have the AT&T Self Support Tool installed on your computer, simply select Cannot send/receive email from the Self Support Tool Main Interface to run an email settings check. When prompted to change your email settings, select Yes.

If you do not have the AT&T Self Support Tool installed, download it and then follow the instructions above.

Make the Changes Manually: To manually make the required setting changes in Outlook and Outlook Express, please view the detailed instructions here.
Alternatively, you may take the following steps to change the settings on your desktop or mobile email client program:

Open your email client program.
Locate the email account settings for your particular client.
Change the POP server to pop.att.yahoo.com.
Change the SMTP server to smtp.att.yahoo.com.
Check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL) and change the SMTP port to 465.
Check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL) and change the POP3 port to 995.
Confirm the above settings then click OK.
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