NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Corona
Re: Mail Changes Coming!
said by Corona  :of course, all I EVER get on my SBCGlobal.net account is SPAM SPAM SPAM. Thanks for selling my addy there AT&T. :/ I have a couple of at&t Yahoo! HSI sub accounts which get no spam. I see no evidence that AT&T has sold email addresses.
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Norman
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Corona
It's cool, I'm takin it back
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Aubrey, TX
| reply to NormanS
said by NormanS :Set up your at&t Yahoo! HSI accounts to forward to the Yahoo! Mail Plus account. of course, all I EVER get on my SBCGlobal.net account is SPAM SPAM SPAM. Thanks for selling my addy there AT&T. :/ |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA | reply to Corona
Set up your at&t Yahoo! HSI accounts to forward to the Yahoo! Mail Plus account.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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Corona
It's cool, I'm takin it back
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Aubrey, TX
| reply to manfmmd
So, I have a personal yahoo email account, that is not associated with my ATT DSL account.
I pay yahoo for this mail Plus account.
From this personal mail Plus account, I POP multiple other accounts to this one place.
Yahoo Mail Plus doesn't support SSL for other accounts.
Now what?
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Rockrz
join:2003-11-25
Austin, TX
| reply to manfmmd
For detailed instructions on making these changes in Outlook and Outlook Express, please click here. Anybody know where "click here" is?
Would like to see the link so I can get those detailed instructions  |
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jimkyle
Btrieve Guy
Premium
join:2002-10-20
Oklahoma City, OK
·AT&T Southwest
1 edit | reply to NormanS
I haven't posted any screen shots yet; I'll have to check from her machine to see if the AT&T logo appears, but since she's never had a plain Yahoo! account I'm presuming that it's the AT&T interface. She is on a subaccount of my primary, as am I. I don't use the primary for anything other than getting about 100 spams daily even though it has never been posted on the net. More than half of these, though, are dictionary attacks...
(edit) Oops! I misread the "Reply to" and thought you were replying to me. Sorry!
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
3 edits | reply to jonrkc
at&t Yahoo! HSI sub account, no POP fetch configured. | 
at&t Yahoo! HSI sub account, POP fetch configured. | 
Plain Yahoo! Mail web mail account. |
I noticed one other thing: No 'at&t' logo! Is that a Yahoo! Mail Plus account, set to use an 'sbcglobal.net' email address as an additional email address? All of my accounts, Primary, and sub, have the 'at&t' logo on the page in front of the Yahoo! logo.
I have done some additional tests, and am posting new screen shots. One shows an at&t Yahoo! HSI web mail page, with no POP3 fetch configured, another shows an at&t Yahoo! HSI web mail page with POP3 fetch configured. Both are sub accounts. The third is a plain Yahoo! Mail web page. Because this is not a paid "Plus" account, the option to fetch POP3 email from another service is not present.
BTW, the Gmail fetch fails. I can't find the place to set the POP3 port number, and Gmail requires use of port 995 with SSL for POP3 access.
With all due respect, I must submit that your screen shot shows a plain Yahoo! Mail Plus account web page, where that account has been configured to fetch email from an at&t Yahoo! HSI account in the 'sbcglobal.net' domain. But I am puzzled by the "Welcome" line; I guess I need to do soem further checking. Your case just looks very unusual, to me, and I am not sure what to tell you to fix the issue. You may be doing something Yahoo! did not expect a user to do.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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jimkyle
Btrieve Guy
Premium
join:2002-10-20
Oklahoma City, OK
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to David
Aha! So using the webmail interface through a firewall might be triggering it. Yet it's necessary to use the webmail interface to train the spamguard filters. Looks like a catch 22 to me...
Can somebody hassle Yahoo! to make their webmail interface comply with their own requirements?
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jonrkc
Premium
join:2003-05-19
Kansas City, MO
| reply to NormanS
The option is reached from where it says "Check other mail / edit" -- which is for your sub-account if any... |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to jonrkc
Web mail options. |
said by jonrkc :There is an option, if you go to "Edit" in web mail for your extra account, to change the port from 110 (Yahoo's provided one -- obviously they're a little behind on their inter-office communications...) to something else. I don't see this "Edit" option. The screen shot shows my web mail options. I explored a couple of the choices, but I found no port number option.
I also tried checking under the member account information. I just don't see where, on the web, to change the ports.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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jonrkc
Premium
join:2003-05-19
Kansas City, MO
1 edit | reply to David
Yes, I run Ubuntu Linux and it uses the standard IPTables setup for firewall. The only thing that seems to trigger the warning messages is this: If I check my SUB-ACCOUNT (not my regular account) via ATT/Yahoo! web mail, then I get a warning. I tried the same thing with firewall disabled for a few minutes, and no warning. So with no protection I don't get a warning, and with protection in place I get a warning.
There is an option, if you go to "Edit" in web mail for your extra account, to change the port from 110 (Yahoo's provided one -- obviously they're a little behind on their inter-office communications...) to something else. I changed it to 995 and got a time-out. I figure there is yet something else I need to change in my firewall settings, then, but I'm just not up to spending hours trying to find out what to do. I have a few other things (not many, but a few) in my life besides email. |
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs: | reply to jonrkc
WHat firewall were you running that was causing it to pop up? |
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jimkyle
Btrieve Guy
Premium
join:2002-10-20
Oklahoma City, OK
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to David
Interesting! My own LAN goes through a Linux box that serves as a router and perimeter firewall, while my wife's machine goes straight to the AT&T gateway (I'm on a grandfathered 5-true-static-IP plan and we're on different IPs since I've never gotten XP Pro to communicate with the Linux router)...
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs: | reply to jimkyle
I think it is a linux firewall, jonrkc what firewall was it that was causing the problem (message appearing? |
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jimkyle
Btrieve Guy
Premium
join:2002-10-20
Oklahoma City, OK | reply to David
Interesting. Did he say what firewall he was using? Here, all the machines are using Tiny/Kerio 2.1.5 -- but my machine that does NOT get the messages runs Win98SE while her machine that DOES get them runs XP Pro...
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs: | reply to jimkyle
one person in the direct forum we found out it could also be personal firewalls as well.
apparently when he deactivated the firewall it didn't trigger a message, but once he put it back up it came back. |
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jimkyle
Btrieve Guy
Premium
join:2002-10-20
Oklahoma City, OK
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to GB34
That may be the major cause, but it's certainly not the only one. In my wife's case, there's no other program of any sort accessing the mail server, and Outlook Express has been configured for the secure ports ever since the change was first announced. She's still getting the nastygrams from Yahoo! at the rate of two or three a week. I tell her to just ignore them.
However I never get them; I just get about 200 spam messages a day at sbcglobal.net. I've quit using the AT&T/Yahoo! mail for my personal and business correspondence and let the spam pile up in the inbox there. but clear it out every couple of days...
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GB34
join:2004-12-08
Adrian, MO
| reply to David
said by David :.......If you have any interfaces besides that one that is checking your e-mail also (say a blackberry, Iphone or another computer) and they are not using the secure ports, that will generate this e-mail as well. I believe that David has nailed the source of many of these messages. I still use MailWasher to preview my e-mails before I download any of them. I finally realized that MailWasher probably needs to be changed to the proper settings also even though it doesn't actually download the messages into my e-mail program. I made the changes and what do you know, no more messages from Yahoo! |
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jonrkc
Premium
join:2003-05-19
Kansas City, MO
| reply to David
said by David :From what I understand, and I got another person that was getting this tonight. If you have any interfaces besides that one that is checking your e-mail also (say a blackberry, Iphone or another computer) and they are not using the secure ports, that will generate this e-mail as well. I have Yahoo! Calendar send reminders to my cellphone, using the address format 816xxxxxxx@mywellknownmobilenetwork.com where the x's replace my cellphone number, and the provider's name is disguised but is a household word. There is nothing in the mobile setup page for Yahoo! Calendar about secure settings, nor would I have any idea how to obtain a "secure" port on my phone -- it was pretty hard just to get a regular address!
But this is completely separate from my POP/SMTP email, as far as I know. |
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David
No,there is another.
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs:
 ·DIRECTV
 ·magicjack.com
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to jonrkc
From what I understand, and I got another person that was getting this tonight. If you have any interfaces besides that one that is checking your e-mail also (say a blackberry, Iphone or another computer) and they are not using the secure ports, that will generate this e-mail as well. |
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