capecoddah
join:2005-03-18
Yarmouth Port, MA
| reply to La Luna
Re: Purchase PC with unauthorized Windows - get sent to Siberia?
Blackbird Sez:
And anyone with more than a cursory understanding of Russia recognizes this. Why doesn't Microsoft??
Bob from 1973 Sez:
This is scary. Russians are poor, this means they are less technically savvy on average than the hackers who frequent these boards.
Everybody that has commented here should see the inside of a Russian public school. Quite different than American/Western schools. 6 days a week, 9-10 months a year. My "dog" of a computer P4 @ 1.6 would be better than anything where I was a teacher's assistant. $10,000 is ALOT of money to most people there.
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Blackbird
Built for Speed
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join:2005-01-14
Fort Wayne, IN
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to La Luna
said by La Luna  :... They could find out who supplied him with those computers...if they wanted to. I don't see how MS could help him, the problem lies with the Russian government and how they handle these things....the same way they always have. Who is 'they'? If it means the Russian power players, the answer is "yes", they could find out - if they haven't already. But 'they' will never disclose the 'truth' unless that denunciation is tailored to serve the narrow power interests of those doing the disclosing... and in most likelihood, any 'truth' that ever was so disclosed would only be partial at best. I would not at all be surprised if some Russian power players in various levels are involved up to their eyeballs with those groups that benefit financially from massive piracy and such. But as always, the person "found to be responsible" will be the lowest-level drone that can be hung with the blame in even a half-way credible manner, and who almost certainly was simply following direct instruction from further above. That is how deflecting blame works there. Off the drone goes, silenced to some isolated timber camp with a conviction around his neck, and the specific piracy issue (and blame) dies on the spot. Courts and justice in Russia are simply not what they are in the West in matters like this (involving those in any positions of power)... not yet. The judicial system in Russia remains 'imposed from above', and as such, represents primarily the state (ie the power players controlling the 'state') in cases before it. It is NOT what those in the West understand a judicial system to be.
If 'they' means Microsoft, there's not a chance in a million 'they' will ever find out the real truth, unless they pay enough cash to convince one of the power players to turn on another player. That's why I hold Microsoft so responsible for what's unfolding. They certainly ought to know how the 'system' works in Russia... and they ought to have known that the really responsible individuals will NEVER be brought to justice this way. But some low-level guy who was in near-certainty just naively carrying out instructions from above, trying to do a good job for his kids with precious few resources, is going to have his life totally wrecked - if not lost entirely. All for a few dollars of royalties lost to piracy, in this instance. Sleep well in your warm beds tonight, lawyers in Redmond!
Again... there are battlegrounds where intellectual rights and anti-piracy ought to be fought, and ways that battle can best be fought. This is not one of them.
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MeDuZa
join:2003-06-13
Austria
| reply to Bob from 1973
said by Bob from 1973 :This is scary. Russians are poor, this means they are less technically savvy on average than the hackers who frequent these boards. Bitter about this travesty of justice.  I mostly agree.
Aleksandr Ponosov might be innocent and his trial a farce.
Anyhow we should not generalize.
Russians are indeed poor but there are several Nix flavors they could use instead of an OS they can't afford.
Besides it probably would help them not to be less technically savvy on average than the "hackers" who frequent these boards 
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Miller
@comcast.net | reply to Blue2
Do not buy software, it can be unauthorized... |
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Name Game
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join:2002-07-07
North Myrtle Beach, SC
| reply to Blue2
case thrown out of court. 
»www.betanews.com/article/Russian···71558743
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